If anyone has seen this product and is considering utilizing it, I would like to know why. The way I see it, the board has effectively no extra slots once you account for all of the low power devices that need their own ports, has no CAN termination or current monitoring, and is only ~$40 cheaper than the Rev PDH.
What are the intended use cases here? I would love to see some scenarios where this should reasonably be chosen over a PDH.
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Many low power devices can run off of one mini power module so they’d only need one port total
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Making CSAs’ job more difficult, next question please.
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To teach teams what arc welding is.
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It is being marketed as the “most efficient” power distribution hub. If there’s any meaningful efficiency difference maybe that’s a factor for teams pushing the power limits.
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More motors running at lower amps = more efficient mechanisms. 3 more motors will make a huge difference for top level teams is my suspicion
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It’s at max only 2 more motors. I highly doubt FIRST will allow the radio and the rio to share a port. So guaranteed those will take up 2 of your ports. And any other low power custom circuit will take up 1 more.
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I suspect it will have a seperate port for rios that isn’t on the render as it’s currently not legal to run a rio on this afaik? Not sure tho
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Rules will have to change. The PDP 2.0 doesn’t seem to have any fused outputs.
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Buying a Rev product to make a CTRE product viable doesn’t seem like a good model to me. I could also put a mini power module on one of the ports of the PDH, and then I would have the same number of ports again.
And while I’m at it since I’m putting in an order at REV anyway, I’m saving ~10 dollars in shipping because I’m not ordering from multiple vendors, bringing the total difference in price to ~36 dollars!
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Make sure to get the rev 40a ATO breakers too as ctr doesn’t sell 40a ATO size breakers I think? (Iirc the rev breakers also have a higher thermal limit but unsure about that )
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I would have really liked for them to have specified this in their product listings. It seems like they rushed the product listings with in development projects, just to be lumped in with all the other products released. Their release seems half-hearted given the fact they only have one new product with actual product pictures and not just CAD
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Hopefully teams will be allowed to run the rio off a mini power module in combination with other low power devices.
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It isn’t rushed. I got to see the real things the other day, and after discussions with the CTRE guys I’m pretty impressed.
If you don’t think a $40 rebate per board is important for a cash strapped team, feel free to throw it our way. Because it’s huge for us.
The current monitoring…well… if you’re using CTRE components you’ll get a much better idea of your current with a quick look at the hoot files using advantage scope.
And just because there isn’t already an obvious app that pulls that function into one place like the DS, that doesn’t mean it isn’t already in the works.
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what’s impressive about it?
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That’s a pretty big “if” for a lot of cash-strapped teams.
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Unless that app works with all vendors motor controllers, its useless IMO. Thats one of the advantages of having the logging in the PDP/PDH. It’s automatic and cross system.
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The PDH is included in the KOP for all new teams…
So this is less of a $40 rebate and more of a you are spending $195 to not use the item you already have, and to also lose no effort current monitoring that can be viewed in the DS logs by CSA’s in the process.
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DS Log is still one of the fastest place for CSA to tell an inexperience team how to watch their voltage/current levels and when things go into brown out situation. I think the product page need to make that BIG and BOLD to steer any inexperience team from it. (or those that are not completely on CTRE stack ONLY).
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Sounds like the PDP 2.0 needs to replace the PDH in the KOP
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