Ill see if i can find it in the shop this afternoon.
Looked this morning, my view was orthographic but the render camera’s was in persepctive. This is a perspective image of the field
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Back in 2014, our team didnt know that TBA existed. It wasnt something that ever came up. In our minds, if it was an issue TIMS would of yelled at our mentor for being a name “already taken” or something. Heck, it hasnt stopped a team from naming themselves the “Circuit Breakers” this year. Its not like this is the only instance either. Theres 3 teams using “Robostangs,” 4 “Full Metal Jackets” (one even before 1296) and a ton of teams using “Dragons” or a slightly altered version of it. Its not like we’re trying to steal your image or something.
Large corporations are obviously protected by trademark laws. The importance of their name extends just beyond marketing and brand recognition, it also serves as consumer protection. For instance, I know I have a lifetime warranty on Craftsman tools, which wouldn’t be present from a knockoff Craftsman. It serves the public’s interest to protect these trademarks to avoid counterfeits.
Within FRC, there are not the same considerations. While a unique brand may help a team, simply naming your team first does not give you exclusivity over the name. You can grant yourself a decent bit of brand protection by picking a unique or highly uncommon name, such as “Simbotics” (which draws from Governor Simcoe Secondary School), which would be highly unlikely to be replicated by another team elsewhere. Using a generic term frequently associated with robotics and electrical engineering such as “Circuit Breaker” offers no such notions of uniqueness. It’s asinine to assume that because you incorporated a generic engineering term into your name at an earlier date that no other team should be allowed to also use the same term.
I believe Sanddrag is trying to say that before his very original team name there was no such thing as circuit breakers he should have trademarked it! Darn-it-all!:ahh: :yikes:
But we aren’t companies, we are high school teams. A lot of high school sports/school mascots have overlapping names, it’s more common than not in high school sports I would wager. That’s why we also have our team numbers to make us unique.
Just look at the Wikipedia disambiguation page for the Blue Devils, the mascot and team identity of the Davis Senior High School sports teams.
Not to drag this topic on longer than it has to go, but to accuse another team of copying a generic robotics-related name is definitely not GP. Not one of the 7+ teams who are currently called “Circuit Breakers” (or an alternate form) invented the concept, and they definitely don’t have a patent registration over that name - just like our team can’t claim to have invented dogs.
sanddrag, the *NASA/JPL Southern California Circuit Breakers *would like to talk. Since their first season in 1997, they have 25 Regional wins, 2 Division wins, and additionally 1 Championship Finalist and 4 Championship Wins.
This sounds impressive, except that particular team went through a couple of splits in the following years, resulting in three teams (and the founding lead mentor now mentors a fourth, with a higher number than 696). The number for the original team was 61, as I recall, but that was during the time that FIRST didn’t see the benefit of fixed numbers for the teams and sorted by sponsor name instead, so someone else has that number now.
Exactly which three (four) teams I’m referring to… well, that’s left as an exercise for the reader. One of them has a similarly-named team AND a similarly-named offseason event, just as a hint.
(And I will admit that as a young team member, or pre-team-member, I may have thought that 696 was swiping the name. :p)
removes tongue from cheek
Nice view of the field, even if the view type listed was wrong.
I was shocked to find out that there’s no other Team ASAP out in FRC. Basically every other well known acronym has been used, and it took until 2013 to choose the one most applicable to FRC? (More or less, depending on interpretation)
Sounds like in the spirit of gracious professionalism and being
Consistent with one’s own statements 696 is obligated to rebrand as not the Circuit Breakers.
would like to talk. Since their first season in 1997, they have 25 Regional wins, 2 Division wins, and additionally 1 Championship Finalist and 4 Championship Wins.
This sounds impressive, except that particular team went through a couple of splits in the following years, resulting in three teams (and the founding lead mentor now mentors a fourth, with a higher number than 696). The number for the original team was 61, as I recall, but that was during the time that FIRST didn’t see the benefit of fixed numbers for the teams and sorted by sponsor name instead, so someone else has that number now.
Exactly which three (four) teams I’m referring to… well, that’s left as an exercise for the reader. One of them has a similarly-named team AND a similarly-named offseason event, just as a hint.
(And I will admit that as a young team member, or pre-team-member, I may have thought that 696 was swiping the name. :p)
removes tongue from cheek
Nice view of the field, even if the view type listed was wrong.
he should have trademarked it! Darn-it-all!:ahh: :yikes:
One of them has a similarly-named team AND a similarly-named offseason event, just as a hint.
