pic: VEX High Reduction Gearbox



High Reduction gearbox made from VEX parts.
This gearbox has 12x 12:60 Gear Reductions in series.

Overall reduction is 244140625:1 – almost 1/4 Billion (with a “B”) to One.

If the large wheel spins at 100 RPM it would take 4.46 years for the small wheel to spin once.

If you dragged the large wheel on the ground as you walked, you would need to walk 60,626.39 miles before the small wheel would spin once.

If you dragged the large wheel behind a car moving 55 mph, it would take 45.85 days for the small wheel to spin once.

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This is something goofy I made which is inspired by the concept of a millennium clock. I’ve made plenty of things which spin really fast, but I’ve never made something which spins VERY slow; I think this qualifies.

I use it as a lesson for Robowrangler students. I ask them to calculate some things as a way of proving they learned their gear theory.

I thought maybe someone here would think it is cool.

-John

Hmm… I’m suddenly tempted to add a year hand to my LEGO clock.

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Is it even possible to turn the little wheel by hand?

This is one of the most ridiculous/amazing things I’ve seen recently.

Thanks!

No, it takes a lot of effort to turn even the 4th 60t gear from the input. I’ve had this gearbox sitting on my desk for a few months and every so often someone gives it a spin. Even after all this time we’ve been unable to advance the small wheel a noticeable amount (you can see the sharpie line we added when I first built the gearbox on the top of that wheel.)

-John

Wow… with that kind of gear reduction… I bet you could move the Earth!

…well… provided the gears don’t explode first… :o

Great nonsensical gizmo. I think I’ll dub it the Neunian Reduction Box for my memory.

-q

If my 24 hours of lemons team took this with us driving from Detroit to San Francicso, strapped on the back of the back of the race-car for the full length of the race, and then drug it back to Detroit, the little wheel would have only turned about 40 degrees.

Another way of looking at this is 1 JVN small wheel degree is equal to about 168 miles. In order words, our trip to Atlanta this spring is only 4.5 JVN small wheel degrees. That doesn’t sound so bad.
:yikes:

This is the kind of goofy stuff I make my students calculate.
It is an awesome learning aid. It makes a pretty cool piece of desk art too.

How’s that Fluids studying going? ready for the final?

Neat gearbox…in the old days cars used to have mechanical odometers. The cable driving it turns 1000 revolutions per mile. The odometer has 6 digits, the first one turns one revolution per mile. I guess it’s a similar concept.

Reminds me of something the artist Tim Hawkinson made once. A ridiculous gear reduction, where the input spun at several thousand RPM, and the output would take hundreds of years to make one revolution.

haha… I was just yesterday teaching our new team members about planing a good reduction gear assembly. I’ll show them this picture :wink:

dang you got busted !!!

thats really cool john

I think this is awesome. I think I am going to borrow the idea for my team, but we are going to make a “Shipdate countdown clock” So Whatever day they build it they will have to calculate the right ratio for a ~60 day output cycle.

Now the real question, has anyone ever run a vex controller for 60+ straight days using a power supply?

I think the makes it reasonably possibly to accelerate the larger wheel to the speed of light.

If not for that pesky friction…

Also inertia :frowning:

Someone please correct me if I am wrong but wouldn’t you be fighting a force of 1/12(mass)(3*radius^2 + height^2) * 244140625 Newtons to get it started? Now, maybe if you put a crazy long lever arm on the small wheel’s shaft you could over come that.

Of course, even that number is almost nothing compared to the real number because you would have to account for starting the gears rotating too. This could be an interesting problem for more advanced students, What is the max length of a lever arm you could attach a 100 kg weight to and still not have the large wheel move? Have them run it both ways.

But very cool John.

What I want to know is what the backlash is at the input gear. It has to be several thousand full revolutions of the input shaft. Which amuses me to no end, given I’m usually working with gearheads that measure backlash in minutes of arc…

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Now try replacing all those medium gears with the large gears. :smiley:

Cool gearbox, JVN!

We had a guy call us this past summer, wanting to use a Toughbox and a low power motor to slowly move a parabolic solar panel so that it follows the sun.

So… we found a small gearmotor package from Dayton, and used that as an input to the Toughbox. We bench tested this assembly and found out that the output shaft of the Toughbox was doing 1 revolution in about 18 minutes. Of course, this is much faster than the Earth is spinning, but it was a good way to use a very low power motor to move a 12 foot long solar panel.

AB

Now lest see you “back-drive” that!