Plummer Industries 24/25 Product Releases & Updates

Plummer Industries is excited to announce the release of some of what we have been working on for the next FIRST season. It was great to show off some of these products and get your feedback at World’s this year. We learned alot about how other teams construct their bumpers while making repairs at the robot service center.

First, some updates on some old products.

This year a few teams reported wear on the Top Mount Socket. Our redesign offers a slightly different geometry and heat treating to significantly improve wear without raising the price. All are still cross compatible. If you have the old top mount sockets and need replacements please reach out to [email protected]

New stuff

We have made a new type of vertical bumper mount that compliments the original. Instead of holes to mount the bumper mounts, these have slots to allow adjustment of the bumper mounts to perfectly fit the sockets on your robot. These may be needed depending on where on your robot you secure the bumper mounts.

We have had tube inserts in the works for a couple years but can now more economically produce them. Pretty standard tube inserts that fit in the end of different size tubes allow teams to connect directly into the end of them. They will ship unthreaded to save costs, and because of my personal belief that tapping builds character and skills in students.

And here’s the big one, or small one by weight and size.

The new Plummer Industries Drive Corner. Weighing in at 47oz (2.9375 lbs) and with the frame at only 1.5 inches off the ground it is one of the smallest and lightest swerve modules available. All machined components are made in house in Maryland. It boasts a “massive” 2.5 inch diameter wheel in a fully protected wheel mount made from a single piece of aluminum. The steering motor is inverted and the drive motor is mounted via a motor mount to allow for easy maintenance. The plates are invertible to allow for users to choose the orientation of the steering motor for easier wire management on the standard plates and even more improvements with the linear plates. Find more information here - https://plummerindustries.com/robotics/resources/drive-corner-info

Compatible motors are Neos,Vortexes, and Krakens. However, teams must supply their own pinions for the Krakens. The Steering motor is flush to the bottom of the lower plate with a Neo but a kraken or vortex will fit but hang out of the bottom.

We have finished machining some of the other options we were hinting at World’s. Inline plates are available which are thinner and allow for packaging of intakes and other internal mechanisms. There are alot more options coming for these but if there is something specific you’d like to see, let us know. Due to feedback from World’s we have also decided to release the Sensor in a CAN configuration to allow for more universal use. The Drive Corners will ship with these for now.

The price point on these are a little higher than we would have liked at $595 but include some extras that are not included in other modules. Plummer Industry Modules ship with the sensor and an extra wheel assembly (wheel,wheel miter gear,2 bearings,miter gear hardware). These are included to require teams to buy the spares we believe they should have. We will have preorders available on the website and units will start to ship mid September.

Candid time. While this is very expensive compared to comparable products there isn’t much we could do to change this without buying parts from overseas. As our machines and technology improve, we can reduce the price without skimping on quality or our Made in America principles.

The purpose of this post is to inform the community and get feedback so be as critical of any of these announcements as you like. Thank you to all for the support as we’ve grown throughout the years.

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DC 2.5 Assembly Exploded Drawing v1.pdf (652.5 KB)

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The cost of those components’ SDS equivalent comes in a hair under $80, so I hope you do make a big deal out of their inclusion. (I don’t think you’re wrong to include them though, since the super tiny wheel diameter means wheel swaps will be more frequent.)

I saw this module in Houston at Championship, and it’s a truly beautiful unit. The wheel guard is a particularly trick piece for answering the “but what about bumps on the field?” question. Looking forward to seeing it get more runtime.

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Are all of your gears and whatnot made in America?

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Yes everything possible. However they will be direct replaceable with other standard FRC parts so you can find them at competition. Some bearings will still be made overseas because I can’t currently find US suppliers.

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Nearly every picture on your site is a render, any pictures of the physical drive units you had on display at champs?

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There are some images here:

So, everything except for some bearings is made in the USA? Neat.
Do y’all make the gears in-house, or are they bought from another made-in-the-USA manufacturer?

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Depending on diameter they are machined from either pulley/gear stock that is US made or from raw stock. But all in house.

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WCP tube plugs are threaded and $7 each for a 2x1 tube plug. Your 2x1 tube plugs are unthreaded and $8 each if i’m seeing that right? I understand that they can be expensive to make, but what is the appeal of paying more for less? Don’t get me wrong, I love more businesses making products for FRC, just trying to understand why one would be inclined to buy this over other cots options.

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There really isn’t a reason other than these are US made. If you wish to purchase those instead you are welcome to. These are pretty limited to what I can price them at due to machine time. If I could make them cheaper I would. And possibly will in the future. But I have the fixtures and programs already so figured I’d offer them.

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It is worth noting that WCP tube plugs are also made in the US.

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Makes sense. And if someone is already placing an order with you it might just be simpler to add this on and be done with it (even tho they may need to thread it themselves).

There could be benefit to a non-threaded style as well for unique mechanism mounting purposes above this tube insert.

Didn’t know that Thank you. So then there really isn’t much difference at all. Just our take on it.

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Don’t most manufacturers make all their stuff in the states besides gears and bearings. Since it’s just easier to deal with supply chain and timing. It also means a much more stable supply chain

This is a nice feature over the other small swerves out there.

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This is most certainly not true of wider industry…or even FRC. Many parts (circuit boards, LCD’s, bolts, tube stock, shaft stock, motors, sensors…the list is endless), are manufactured overseas and merely distributed in the US. Sometimes parts are made overseas and then assembled in the US, but to say most stuff is made in the US is patently incorrect, probably the opposite.

Making things in the US for the US market can help with supply chain issues like you mention - but as of late (the last 2+ decades), the trend has been to value lower cost over all else with little exception. There were supply chain ripples and problems initially with COVID and critical passage obstruction (EVERGREEN), but those have so far not resulted in major shift to our global economy.

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I am trying to document this for YAGSL and wanted to know how your absolute encoder connects to either the roboRIO or sparkmax/sparkflex.

When you tested it did you zero using the rev hardware client or a code based offset?

On that robot it was directly into the spark max via the ribbon cable. The new sensors will also be able to go directly to the RIO with 5 Volt analog for teams that want to go that route.

It was zeroed in the software with the offsets in the Json files. They were in degrees.

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Thanks!

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