Predictions: The Big Show -- Curie

There are just too many teams to pick from. Really. I have managed to whittle my tips & locks down to a manageable list of 12 Teams per Division.

Tips: A team to watch. Should have a pretty good run after lunch on Saturday.

Lock: This is a team that I feel has a better than 50% chance of making it to the finals of their division.

Here we go…

**TIPS:
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They were finalists in Pittsburgh. They were Champs in Cleveland. Delphi’s toughest defender this year #48 is the real deal. They should be a prized pick in the draft if they don’t seed high enough to be an alliance capt themselves.

Kingman #60. Tough tough tough. Seeded #20 in AZ, Drafted #1 & are now AZ Champs. Enough said.

They have had struggles at Great Lakes and Grand Rapid, but the HOT Team (#67) always puts up their best numbers at the Championships. Key your eye on them. They can put up the tubes fast.

Champs in Toronto, Finalists in CT. Even so, they may not be high on folks radar screen given how stacked this division is. I would not be surprised to see this team fall the the second draft round, but watch out. They are a huge asset. Don’t be the team to skip them and then get beaten by their play. Aces High can do it. #176 – you heard it here.

Champs in West Lafayette and on Long Island. They are up for the Chairman’s Award in Atlanta. Look for good things all the way around from Team #234 Cyber Blue.

These guys have GOT to be tired of the Simbotics – they’ve been Finalists twice to them in Waterloo and Toronto – but 2 Regional Finalists trophies are nothing to sneeze at. Look for Great thing from Team #1305 – who’ll be trying for the Chairman’s Award trophy in addition to the hardware they hope to bring home on the field.

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**LOCKS:
**16-3-1 in seeding at LA & TX Regionals. Finalist at the first, Champs at the 2nd. #118 is the very definition of a Lock. Great team, should do great in the Dome.

I picked them in Boston to go all the way. They only finished a Finalist. But, I am sticking with them #121, Naval Undersea Warfare is a team that should be a huge presence even in Curie division.

Gael Force is another team that defines Lock. They are competing for Chairman’s Award too. They often means good things on the field as well. They were Champs in Boston. Look for #126 to be putting on the hurt on the Curie field.

16-2-0 in seeding at Los Angeles & San Diego. The Beach Bots (#330) are going to have a say in how this whole Curie thing works its way out. They are a lock too.

Las Guerrillas (#469) had a rough start in Ypsilanti. They gained some traction in Detroit. They were plowing through the competition in Grand Rapids. With their huge and effective slight slope lifting ramp and an effective arm (finally) plus an extremely effective swerve drive AND some drivers who can master the beast, they should be another huge force on Curie.

How many locks does one division need? Well, at least one more if I haven’t spoken of Simbotics (#1114). These guys put the UN in UNBELIEVEABLE. This is the cream of the Canadian Crop and probably the cream of the planetary crop. They are 16-3-1 in seeding after 3 regionals (Ypsi, Waterloo & Toronto). They were #1 seed in 2 and but for loosing the last seeding round in Toronto would have been 3 for 3. It took a battery failure on a partner robot to help get them out of Ypsi or they might have been 3 for 3 this year – even so they won 6 of their last 7 Regionals.
This is the year they make their move on the Championships stage. If they get together with another Lock from Curie, well, it may be all over but the scoring…

**BONUS:
**Too many teams in Curie to keep it to just 12. Sorry I have to add one.

Keep an eye out for #2166. These guys were Rookie All Stars in Toronto & they were on the #2 Alliance there. Good luck in Atlanta Appleby Robotics!

Joe J.

Shunned again… so far in every prediction. Better to be the underdog and suprise than the favorite and not perform well… we’re for real this year, watch out for 648, John Deere / Ken-Tronics / SME*… QC ELITE.

*I just had to go along with Dr. Joe on this, naming the sponsors is fun. :smiley:

I am only human. I don’t know about every team. Pitch me interesting storylines and you are likely to get ink. Interest is the key. Why would folks care about your robot/team/chances? Do tell.

Finally, this has been a kind of grand experiment. Perhaps we can get a real paper or blog up an running for next season… …stay tuned.

Joe J.

Seriously, no yellow text. I know you want it to look cool, but yellow text is eye-searing.

Though I agree, we are a solid team, I have started a little video scouting of curie with my father, we’ve seen only 1 team that we can agree are probably better than us, as well as a couple that we think are about on par with us. Of course we might be a little biased there Anyway, expect us to come out strong in Atlanta.

Edit: as for what our robot offers? Tested autonomous, great tube picking and placing capabilities, strong drive train, and of course the best bunch of tacticians and scouters at nationals

That statement says it all. As I’ve mentioned before and will again, Curie is so far the most competitive division, and it will all boil down to alliances. Even though there are only 13 teams mentioned, it takes 24 teams to complete alliances. So that means we are still not sure what are the other 11 bots/team.
In my history of FIRST, I haven’t seen such a competitive division with soo many good bots. My heart will be in my mouth, during the alliance pick.

Imad

Though I agree that there are far too many good teams to list, I thought I would share a couple of our teams facts. Team 1270 is a Hanger/Climber hybrid. We went down to Florida with the intentions of just giving a good show out of town. We seeded 7th and were picked up by the number 4 seed. We were one of the top 5 hangers at Florida and went to the finals and took it all the way. We went to Buckeye and had some bad luck, but we were drafted by the #2 seed.We have a integrated 2 speed transmission and we can put atleast 4 ringers on with defense on us and 7+ w/out. we have all our weight down low and are almost untippable giving us the ability to climb up to a 40-45 degree ramp. I think what kept us out of the “teams to watch out for” discussion was the fact that we had a tendency to get ringers flipped on to our grabber. I assure you that this has been looked at and fixed for the championships. Team 1270 has a good robot this year and is one to watch out for. I am planning on putting some of our ramp climbing highlights on here soon and our matches from Florida are on soap 108. Thanks for taking the time to read this and if you have any questions please dont hesitate to stop by our pit and ask. Good luck to all teams.

Since when is a team that climbs a ramp and score a tube become a hybrid? There are many teams that can are only ramps. There are many teams that can only score tubes. A team that can score tubes and has ramps is in my opinion, and many others I’ve spoken with, a true hybrid.

I have no doubts in your ability to score tubes or climb ramps. But with that mentality, when does the hybrid classification stop? A ramp only team that can climb a ramp is now a hybrid according to this logic.

Since teams still improve their robots throughout the competition I will make no predictions about which robot will win as part of what alliance, but I will predict that the winning alliance will have two robots that are specialists that play pretty much the same role in each match (e.g. scorer, blocker, or ramp) and one robot that is a hybrid in the sense that it plays different roles in different matches (eg. blocker one match, scorer the next) depending on match ups vs. the opposition. Scouting for that third robot is likely to be hard–driver quality and strength of drivetrain are harder to evaluate than tubes scored and robots raised. The “specialists” may have other good qualities in qualifying that are used at most rarely in elims.

I also think there has been too little consideration of autonomous scoring. Alliances that don’t score (at least) one in autonomous consistently seem unlikely to win Einstein. An alliance that scored three in auton would be hard to beat if it could be assembled.

Alliance building will be fun to watch at the World Championship Event.

BTW watch for 111 coming out of one the other divisions–they are good, maybe the best I’ve seen for scoring vs defense, they may benefit from playing less conservatively in ATL.

It has been stated on other posts and I kinda took to it. Is there a problem with there being more than 1 type of hybrid? I mean if there is than I will spread the word. I kind of thought that saying ramp/arm or scoring/climbing or ramp/climbing was a little more useful but if it is not than I will stop using it.

QC Elite has been brimming with potential since first making regional finals back in 2004 at the Midwest Regional. Since then they’ve reached the summit twice, but have been struck by a curse. Look to this team to be solid because they have developed their best robot to date. Their crab drive allows intricate weaving between potential defenders and their end effector allows for quick pick up and deposit of ringers. Now their operators have a regional under their belt, look for experienced driving. Watch out Simbotics and Beach 'Bots… here comes the competition.

Shhhh, don’t give away the secrets to the playoffs…

There’s so many good robots in Curie, it’s insane.

I think that an ideal alliance will have at least two scorers and a ramp or a hybrid. If you do your scouting, I will almost bet that you will be able to find a really good ramp bot or hybrid that won’t be taken. We always have seemed to be able to find some ramp or hybrid bot that was able to perform their task really well, and defend if needed. I think we are all just going to have to watch very closely, and base decisions off of reliability, not necessarily seeding (although that is important too:)).

pretty good predictions…

well after day 1, 1305,1114, and 2166 are in the top 10

As go the Curie predictions, don’t second guess team #176. They have been in the top ranks for years, faithfully counting off regional winners & finalsts, as well as finalists numerous times in thier division in Atlanta over the past 4 years. Make it happen!

Tips:
48 - Division Finalists
60 - Division Quarter Finalists
67 - Division Finalists
176 - Division Quarter Finalists
234 - Division Quarter Finalists
1305 - Division Quarter Finalists

Locks:
118 - Division Quarter Finalists
121 - Division Semifinalists
126 - Division Semifinalists
330 - Division Champions
469 - Division Semifinalists
1114 - Division Semifinalists

Tips that made the elims: 6/6 = 100%
Locks that made the elims: 6/6 = 100%
Locks that were finalists or better 1/6 = 17%

Great record overall, but still hard to predict the finalists.