Predictions: The Big Show -- Einstein

[Alex_Cormier]

Hmm.
'95 - Ramp and Roll
'07 Rack and Roll.

I hope to see another Rookie dominate the Roll Games.

[Joel_J]

This isn’t smart, but meh…

Archimedes: 175 (drivers), 233 (experience), 254 (their ramps-- killer). 254 with a solid partner to help take some of the heat off (233’s a good pick, psst) will dance their way through. If they are carrying the alliance, then forget about it.

Curie: 1114 is on deck this year. And of course 330. But if they falter, then it will probably be to 48. 1114 and 330 are my top two picks, but the question is-- given the opportunity to ally, will they make a good alliance? That is, can they work well together?

Galileo: ugh. My love is 56. I love that robot. But, 217 is solid… and people aren’t (IMO) watching 25-- they could gasp slide under the radar, then run circles around everyone.

Newton: 148, 696, 1124. 148 is this close. This close: ||. Solid execution will give them the gold.

[Arefin_Bari]

Here is my prediction…

The winning alliance will consist of two very good and consistant scorer and also one hybrid. One of the teams on the winning alliance will not be one of the very known teams.

… 2 more days till the big show…

[Lil_Lavery]

Curie: 330 seeds 2-4, picks 234 and 291, wins the division.
Archimedes: 233 seeds #3-5, picks 100 and 47 (with 997, 179 and 1501 already gone), wins the division.
Newton: 1038 seeds 1-2, picks 148 and 1885, wins the division.
Galileo: No comment, other than my projected winner(s) isn’t the one everyone else has.

The Einstein finals are too close to call, so I won’t.

[MasterChief_573]

@Lil' Lavery

Curie: 330 seeds 2-4, picks 234 and 291, wins the division.
Archimedes: 233 seeds #3-5, picks 100 and 47 (with 997, 179 and 1501 already gone), wins the division.
Newton: 1038 seeds 1-2, picks 148 and 1885, wins the division.
Galileo: No comment, other than my projected winner(s) isn’t the one everyone else has.

The Einstein finals are too close to call, so I won’t.

Although I don’t agree with any of your predictions I do agree that this is gonna be an extremely close championship, probably the closest to date.

[Cory]

@Lil' Lavery

Archimedes: 233 seeds #3-5, picks 100 and 47 (with 997, 179 and 1501 already gone), wins the division.

You think 3 rampbots will be the first 3 picks?

[Lil_Lavery]

@Cory

You think 3 rampbots will be the first 3 picks?

No, those 3 teams will be gone by 233’s 2nd round pick, when they pick up 47. 254 and 71 will likely be picked ahead of 233s first selection though.

[system]

highly likely 3 rampbots are over talked:D

[Mike_Ross]

@MasterChief 573

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this is gonna be an extremely close championship, probably the closest to date.

I agree, for several reasons:

-The divisions have come out extemely well-balanced this year, with multitudes of good robots in each division, giving each division a good chance of forming an uber-alliance.

-Rack 'n Roll is a game that makes it nearly impossible for any robot, no matter how great, to dominate (unlike 25 in '06, 71 in '01 & '02, etc.).

-From what I’ve seen, I feel certain that Einstein will be determined by strategy and execution, not just being really, really good at scoring. (Case in point: No one predicted the #5 alliance winning at Detroit. But they played a smothering defense with a reliable ramp and executed remarkably, beating numerous “superior” opponents.)

Seeing as all the divisions have an equal chance in my mind, I will now roll a die and declare that this year’s champs will come from: Archimedes

[MasterChief_573]

@Mike Ross

I agree, for several reasons:

-The divisions have come out extemely well-balanced this year, with multitudes of good robots in each division, giving each division a good chance of forming an uber-alliance.

-Rack 'n Roll is a game that makes it nearly impossible for any robot, no matter how great, to dominate (unlike 25 in '06, 71 in '01 & '02, etc.).

-From what I’ve seen, I feel certain that Einstein will be determined by strategy and execution, not just being really, really good at scoring. (Case in point: No one predicted the #5 alliance winning at Detroit. But they played a smothering defense with a reliable ramp and executed remarkably, beating numerous “superior” opponents.)

Seeing as all the divisions have an equal chance in my mind, I will now roll a die and declare that this year’s champs will come from: Archimedes

Is there a little bit of bias in that prediction?

[jgannon]

@Lil' Lavery

Newton: 1038 seeds 1-2, picks 148 and 1885, wins the division.

(Disclaimer: I love 1038.)

The only sure way for 1038 to win Newton is by drafting 247. They are one of the most effective scorers this year, but they need protection. If 247 isn’t protecting 1038, they will almost certainly be riding 1038’s interchangable bumpers.

[MasterChief_573]

@jgannon

(Disclaimer: I love 1038.)

The only sure way for 1038 to win Newton is by drafting 247. They are one of the most effective scorers this year, but they need protection. If 247 isn’t protecting 1038, they will almost certainly be riding 1038’s interchangable bumpers.

I personally want to see 1038 team with 696 and 573(biased). That would be a winning alliance, two powerhouse scorers and a successful hybrid what more could you ask for.

[Tim_Delles]

Ok so people are posting who they think will win the divisions so i guess i put mine up

Newton - 148 seeds #1, picks 111 then picks 340
Curie - 1114 seeds #2 picks 234 then picks 176
Archie - 494 seeds #1 picks 254 then picks 4
Galileo - 2056 seeds #1 picks 217 then picks 1251

I honestly think there is so much depth this year in each division that it is not going to be a problem for the number 1 seeds to win their divisions. The problem is going to be getting the team that they WORK best with. The alliance with the teams that work best together will beat the alliance with the best teams on them any day (excluding if the best teams work the best together)

just what i think could happen for winners in each division.

[Stvn]

@Tim Delles

Exactly.

don’t underestimate 2056. I could very well see this team being the first rookie FIRST World Champion (yes i dare to say this) They didn’t get those 2 blue banners for being not so good. There robot is great, and the drivers are just as good if not better than most of the “elite” teams of FIRST. But who know’s it will all be revealed come Saturday of who is the best in FIRST this season.

@Rob

The world champion in 1995 (Ramp and Roll) was a rookie, and was featured on the cover of the Small Parts catalog the following year. 2056 along with all other rookies attending do however have the chance to be the first rookie world champion this century.

EDIT* The world champion in 1992 was also a rookie

good luck!

RAZ

But in '92 and '95, it was national champions, right? So technically, it would be the first rookie **world **champion.

[BBnum3]

I agree with Arefin-- although a lot of us have watched hours of matches and scouted many teams, it’s impossible to know what’s going to happen. But that’s just the fun of predicting, isn’t it? It’s fun to see how close you can get with whatever information you have.

That said, I’ll make some predictions of my own ;):

The giants in Curie will get split up. They will have such a target on their backs and such a rigorous qualification schedule that the very top seeds won’t be the “best” robots. Look for a number 4-6 seed to come out of Curie. 3 quality bots will band together to make it to Einstein.

Here’s a vague one, but one I think is true: Somebody we all never expected is going to make it to Einstein, possibly win it all. We’ll find out who that is come next Saturday.

[Travis_Hoffman]

@Arefin Bari

If you would like to further discuss this topic about “questions” without calling each other stupid on a public forum, feel free to pm me or you know my screen name for aim. With that said, would any one of the moderators be gracious enough to please delete my post?

Arefin:

I don’t think Cory was calling anyone stupid, he just used a bit of confusing sentence structure. I myself had to check twice to be sure.

Cory - “Nobody said that their picks are 100% correct, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid.”

I believe he meant, “Nobody said that their picks are 100% correct, and nobody said that anyone who disagrees with their picks is stupid”. I think he was implying that this has been a friendly, rather innocuous thread to this point where no one is proclaiming some kind of uncanny psychic ability to predict the future better than anyone else, but I can see your viewpoint that many of these prognostications have had a tinge of rah-rah-ism for the home team or perhaps also a bit of the “me too” bandwagon syndrome. Even so, I don’t think there’s anything necessarily wrong with having fun in guessing.

Basically, this is all just for fun, and no one is pretending to know anything more about the final outcome than anyone else. If everyone continues to go with the flow, then no worries.

By the way, I have yet to make any predictions, nor will I, because karma and fate are scary partners, and I don’t wish to upset either. I look forward to having our team try their best and be happy with whatever end result takes place. I don’t have thick enough stomach lining to be up all night worrying about who’s going to pick us or getting into the Top 8 or even if we’ll do well enough to deserve consideration for the elimination rounds. I just hope the experience ends up being an enjoyable one for me and everyone else participating.

[Arefin_Bari]

@Travis Hoffman

Fin:

I don't think Cory was calling anyone stupid, he just used a bit of confusing sentence structure.  I myself had to check twice to be sure.


Cory - "Nobody said that their picks are 100% correct, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid."

I believe he meant, "Nobody said that their picks are 100% correct, and nobody said that anyone who disagrees with their picks is stupid".  I think he was implying that this has been a friendly, rather innocuous thread to this point where no one is proclaiming some kind of uncanny psychic ability to predict the future, but I can see your viewpoint that many of these prognostications have had a tinge of rah-rah-ism for the home team or perhaps also a bit of the "me too" bandwagon syndrome.  Even so, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with having fun in guessing.

Basically, this is all just for fun, and no one is pretending to know anything more about the final outcome than anyone else. If everyone continues to go with the flow, then no worries.

Let’s continue…

[hayakuneko]

@MasterChief 573

I personally want to see 1038 team with 696 and 573(biased). That would be a winning alliance, two powerhouse scorers and a successful hybrid what more could you ask for.

sounds good nuff for me

i’m sad… Joe didn’t give us a shot at getting to einstein

[MasterChief_573]

@hayakuneko

sounds good nuff for me

i’m sad… Joe didn’t give us a shot at getting to einstein

He’s just being statistically correct in all reality he wants us to he just can’t say it.

[J.Rees]

@Tim Delles

Ok so people are posting who they think will win the divisions so i guess i put mine up

Newton - 148 seeds #1, picks 111 then picks 340
Curie - 1114 seeds #2 picks 234 then picks 176
Archie - 494 seeds #1 picks 254 then picks 4
Galileo - 2056 seeds #1 picks 217 then picks 1251

I honestly think there is so much depth this year in each division that it is not going to be a problem for the number 1 seeds to win their divisions. The problem is going to be getting the team that they WORK best with. The alliance with the teams that work best together will beat the alliance with the best teams on them any day (excluding if the best teams work the best together)

just what i think could happen for winners in each division.

I’m with Tim on this one. There are plenty of good teams. There are very few great teams. Just try to find a team you can work well with. I’m just afraid that the match list gremlins will keep teams from working together. I already know we won’t be teamed WITH any of the teams you have us with. But thanks for the props.