Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams

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Girls on Teams

Since we are an all-girls team, we have lately been interested in the roles of girls on co-ed teams. Some members of my team were doing a survey of the number of girls on teams and their jobs at the Buckeye Regional. We were very disappointed to discover that on some teams, girls were given only the job of cheerleader, or publicist. Continuing that, just please give the number of girls on your team, along w/ the number of students on your team, and what the girls usually do. Thanks a lot!

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Girls on both my old team, TechnoKats, and my current team, The Storm, can hold any position they want and earn. TechnoKats has had female human players, and they had to earn the position in direct competition with males on the team. We have also had girls as team leaders, and in most other positions.

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On the Bomb Squad girls are allowed any position boys are, although they tend to be more interested in the chairmans award and community outreach that in the machineshop or driving(with a few exceptions ofcourse).

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cyberblue is very proud of the girls on the team. we (like all teams) have girls who don’t do much (of course some guys don’t do much either) but we also have a girl who is lead on electronics, and a girl who will be the first one in there to burn her hand or cut herself wherever needed. go stanish!

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Our team is almost all boys, but we have five girls who come with some consistency. Of those five, one is President, one if vice president, and one is treasurer and head of scouting. If there’s a lack of opportunity for girls on other teams, we certainly don’t share it on 449.

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On the team I mentored in college, we had a trio of young women who ruled supreme. Simply put, they were the most motivated students we had. I’m reasonably confident that if I had told them they couldn’t make the robot fly, they would have proven me wrong. Over the years the team had between 4 and 7 students total.

On the team I participated in during highschool, there was a much wider spread in the responsibilities of the females. We had upwards of 50 students total, so the statistics averaged out a bit. We had a lot of strong young women that did everything anyone else did. Unfortunately, we had a few other girls who brought stereotypes with them.

There are sexist people out there that will attempt to force young women to be girls. Hopefully, they are a dying breed. However, they are not 100% of the problem; It is the burden of young women everywhere to not be sexist against themselves. A few refrains of “I’m just a girl” and it becomes true.

I’ve had the pleasure of working with a lot of really smart/capable/fantastic women engineers. It is clear to me that gender doesn’t play into engineering capability, only perceived capability.

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This year we have a female captain, assistant captain, lead competition driver, booth coach, pit crew members, head of media, head of electrical and 2 out of 3 Chairman’s presenters.

Generally our team runs about 40% female, but it just seems like the girls are always ready to “step up to the plate” and take on responsibility.

Way back in 2000 & 2001 we had a few guys give the girls a hard time for being in the shop. We quickly put an end to that behavior and have not had a problem since.

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Well, our team also has females…and here are a few of the roles they hold.

1 is Vice President
2 of them are part of the pit crew.
1 of them is involved in community outreach.
1 of them is really involved in scouting.

The school representative/mentor is also a female. We have never had a problem with females on our team. Over the years team 1261 has encouraged females to join our team.

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I was the webmaster and media producer because I had the most experience as the Chief Technology Editor of the high school newspaper.
Us girls had the option of doing whatever we wanted, so I also helped with design, tried my hand at Autodesk, and helped with wiring when I needed to. I was also part of the pit crew at the Oregon Regional. As the webmistress, I also ended up doing a lot of communication with other teams.
I wouldn’t think that any team would openly say girls aren’t allowed to do shop and such. It’s just easier for us to slip into doing what we supposedly do good: the whole human relations thing.
And so I suppose I did the same thing… this year. But that’s only because I knew I had next year. I wanted to help this team do its best by doing what I know best. But even so, over the course of our team’s short history, my knowledge and interest in the STEM fields has increased dramatically.
Now that I’m addicted to FIRST, next year I’m going to be the team captain, coach/teach the FLL kids, and so on. My personal goal is encourage girls not to be so scared of robotics, like I was when I switched out of my Introduction to Robotics class freshman year. My team and FIRST is doing a much better job at encouraging me to learn in these fields.
My second-in-command, the other returning senior next year, will also be a girl. Next year, OCPro seems like it’s going to be predominantly female led. It shall be great, I tell you.

Cheerleading?.. that’s pretty sad.

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Out here in Colorado, Alpine Robotics Team 159’s got two female captains, one of them the head of programming and the other cocaptain of the team as a whole. Also, we’ve got two girls working on public outreach, and one who’s one of the best we have in the shop.

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Out here in Austin, TX, estrogen is essential! I’m one of two female student project managers on the WHS Chap Robotics team. Each of our 9 females on the team (out of 34 students total) has taken on such a leadership role, utilizing both their organizational talents and technical expertise. In fact, only one of our subgroup leads is male (we have women heading such divisions as build, marketing/business, media, and education/outreach).

But our rise to these leadership roles could not have occurred without a support network, a network that was decidedly male. Like many have said, oftentimes girls will find themselves relegated to a second-tier status in technical fields due to their sheer lack of experience. But rather than denying us for our want of training, the males on our team embraced us and taught us instead, communicating the secrets of the shop. I’ve never been treated with anything less than complete respect. And though we’ve had to earn our positions, we women have always been acknowledged for our merit.

Just yesterday, when fundraising and distributing outreach information at our school district’s 50th anniversary, multiple female engineers came up to me and told me how proud they were to see women excelling in robotics. They, themselves, had faced much resistance in their professions, but were excited to have passed the torch so successively on to a new generation.

Well, anyway, we’ve been quite lucky, having both strong women and supportive males. The gender divide is so non-existent that I’ll work hours at a robotics event and not realize until it’s over that I was the only female present.

Because we realize how much the pursuit of robotics has affected our lives, we’ve sought to extend the favor to female youth at the Ann Richards School for Young Women leaders. By exposing them to science and technology at a young age we hope to dispel any lingering misconceptions about estrogen and engineering.

(apologies for the length, this topic is close at heart :slight_smile: )

Natalie “Gnat” Craik
Project Manager
Chap Robotics
Team 2468…Appreciate! (feel free to smile, we all do!)
Westlake High School
Austin, TX

[email protected]

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On 973, girls are allowed the same privileges as guys.

We had three this season, one was a valued leader and did a lot of hands on work with the robot (assembly, machining, etc…). One did a tad bit of software, but mostly ran scouting and did a pretty good job of it (I have high standards for scouting, and she met them). The final just painted our crate, but she wasn’t really that active of a member on the team because of other conflicts.

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I would take these reponses with a grain of salt. There is a lot more motivation for a team that has girls playing a big role to respond, than teams that have girls forced to be cheerleaders. I’m not saying that these teams are lying, but that the teams that have problems with lack of girls are a lot less likely to respond. So, remember that voluntary samples are filled with biases.

As for 1732, the two years I was on the team, we were made up of just one school, which was an all-male school. This year, I know we included students from the all-femal school, but I was not around to answer the question.

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Opps…can someone delete this…

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This is a great read for insight into teams that are developing in this area and what some of the trouble spots are as well as some of the growth, initiative, and acceptance.

Also, gnat89 is spot on in describing these aspects of her team.
I’ve had the privilege of visiting them in their working environment, the classroom at Westlake High School, and I’ve met the team leaders. We’ll be seeing some good things coming out of this LSR Rookie All-Star team.

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I don’t think they are asking about lack of girls, but rather what girls do on co-ed teams.

Also, most blatant intentional double post ever. One post at 10:46 (pacific), the “mistake” at 10:48 with no edit tag?

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I believe they are asking about the roles of girls on teams. Based on the responses from this thread, it seems as if girls have equal roles. However, teams that have girls in less than equal roles are less likely to respond. Someone reading this thread may think FIRST teams have no problem with equality based on the few responses.

I included information about my team (as a side note/afterthought) to decrease the amount of response bias, although it does not answer the question.

The reason for the double post. I posted the first one but forgot to include information about my team. I accidentally hit the ‘quote’ button instead of the ‘edit’ button. I added the information about my team and hit post. I then quickly saw the mistake and edited the second post. I am not sure why it doesn’t say it was edited; perhaps because it was edited so quickly after it was originally posted.

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I get that too on occasion.

On another note… HOLY ANCIENT THREAD REVIVAL, BATMAN! The original thread is from 2003.

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I know that we have had many girls on the team over the years and our team has never had restrictions to what any person is allowed to do. This year, however, we did not have any girls on our team up until a couple of weeks ago when we gained a mentor who graduated in art and design.

When we attended the Milwaukee Regional, I saw many girls coming from so many of the teams. From what I could tell, the girls on those teams participated in almost all of the facets of the team including driving, wiring, mechanical, design, publicity, scouting, etc. This is the same as the guys that are on my team. Their skills range widely and they will find a place on our team wherever they best fit.

I sincerely hope that mentors on all teams are allowing girls to be involved in the same way the guys on the team are allowed to participate and that they aren’t pushed toward a part of the competition they aren’t necessarily interested in.

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My team is small (about 12 members, 3 of which are girls), and I’m the Co-Captain and Arm Operator…plus it’s my first year on the team.