QotW 10-12-03: Patience

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This week’s question comes from a good friend from the sunny state of Florida. I think it’ll reveal a bit about our personalities.

Question of the Week 10-12-03: Would you ever build a ship in a bottle? Why? Why not?

Personally, I’d love to, mostly out of my adoration for model ships. I know that I don’t have the patience to sit and accomplish the task, though.

So, how patient are you? Do you have the fortitude to take on long, arduous task and see it to completion? I wonder how building a FIRST robot compares to building the metaphorical ship in a bottle.

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Yes I would b/c I am currently building one now. Why? B/c i’m a dork and I came up with the idea for the question :stuck_out_tongue:

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no i lack the low blood pressure to deal with that, my first mistake would be my last it would stress me out to much

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*Originally posted by M. Krass *
**This week’s question comes from a good friend from the sunny state of Florida. I think it’ll reveal a bit about our personalities.

Question of the Week 10-12-03: Would you ever build a ship in a bottle? Why? Why not?

Personally, I’d love to, mostly out of my adoration for model ships. I know that I don’t have the patience to sit and accomplish the task, though.

So, how patient are you? Do you have the fortitude to take on long, arduous task and see it to completion? I wonder how building a FIRST robot compares to building the metaphorical ship in a bottle. **

No, I wouldn’t build a ship in a bottle, but it’s not because of the patience factor. It’s because if I’m building something that intricate, I want to play with it. Sure, I’ll put it on display, but I want to see the intricacies of it, see what it does. It’s the same with everything else. If I see a foreign part off something, I’d kinda like to get the feel of it. I have that “curiousness” trait. So I wouldn’t build a ship in a bottle simply because the bottle stops me from playing with it (unless it’s that infamous "ship-in-a-bottleship :smiley: ).

Now, on to the question of patience. I am patient (at least I personally think I am. Of course, if a task isn’t necessary and I’m not into it, I’d rather not do it. But I digress. I do have to fortitude to see a long task into completion though. The perfect example, I am an excelent chess player because I don’t rush my moves. But to the part of patience & FIRST: I think we can make an oxymoron out of that. The only reason is that there isn’t enough time to be patient. 6 weeks isn’t much. Of course, I want to make sure it’s done right, but sometimes, to meet the deadline, you have to sacrifice a few things. Patience is the first one that goes.

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I have little to no patience in most situations. I think my students can attest to that.

I like getting things done… and that’s that.

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I’d start it, then wind up just using the bottle to prop up my couch or something.

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*Originally posted by M. Krass *
**This week’s question comes from a good friend from the sunny state of Florida. I think it’ll reveal a bit about our personalities.

Question of the Week 10-12-03: Would you ever build a ship in a bottle? Why? Why not?

Personally, I’d love to, mostly out of my adoration for model ships. I know that I don’t have the patience to sit and accomplish the task, though.

So, how patient are you? Do you have the fortitude to take on long, arduous task and see it to completion? I wonder how building a FIRST robot compares to building the metaphorical ship in a bottle. **

Building Ship-in- a-Bottle is a great way to practice in patience, focus, and imagination.
It is one of these wonderful “art forms” that are slowly disappearing. I have done it and once you start the challenge you can’t stop (it started after a I saw them during a visit to a marine museum), but I don’t think many of my students can do it.
Patience is developed along side maturity.
One of the thinks I try to turn younger students on to is the art of Origami.
Origami has the same affect- patience, focus, and imagination.

Maybe we can come up with a contest, building robots-in-a-bottle!
(official judging and awards at the Championship in Atlanta!)

:slight_smile: :slight_smile:

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i would only build a ship in a bottle if i built it with turrets and torpedos and cannons to blast its way out of the bottle

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I wouldn’t build it for a simple reason - because nothing about building a ship in a bottle interests me.

There are other tedious things I would do - for example, spending 2.5 hrs reaching into a small space in the robot last year and tightening a total of 3 screws - but it would obviously have to interest me either directly or as part of a larger project.

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Many years ago I built one myself. The hard part was finding a suitable bottle to use. I gave it to my grandparents, but got it back when they died. I still have it. That’s one ship model it’s no problem to dust :slight_smile:

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I’d rather spend the time fooling around with a microcontroller or linux, or something that would show benefits to me (beyond patience).

I actually have to be very patient when dealing with my computer, since I use Gentoo Linux. It compiles everything from scratch, so if you have something big, like XFree86, yeah, a couple of hours that your computer won’t be very friendly ;).

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I am overall a person of very little patience. I finish people’s sentences because they talk too slow. I can apply patience when I want to, it’s just most of the time I don’t want too. But I really wouldn’t have any reason to build a ship in a bottle. It just sits there. Now, if it was an RC submarine inside a bottle of water …

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i DO NOT have the patience for that… i think i would make the ship and then build the glass around it :slight_smile:

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I would have the patience to build a ship in a bottle, but I would not have the drive to start, because having a ship in a bottle serves me no purpose at all. Now if; lets say I was making a life sized model of the Washington Monument out of Popsicle Sticks, I would definetly have the patience for that.

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Forget having patience to do it, I just don’t have the time. I probably wouldn’t start it because it doesn’t particularly interest me, but I could probably be convinced to if it became a team project (say, like Model Railroading). Unfortunately, it might get started, but never finished 'cause I don’t really have time for a long term, tedious project like that. I don’t even have time to design a compression tester for Design of Machine Elements and that’s for a grade (but I find time for that, plus I get a partner). Anyway, I can have a lot of patience if it’s important to me and I can make time for things that are important for me…however, I don’t see a ship in a bottle fulfilling those requirements. RIT keeps me busy. :slight_smile:

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*Originally posted by Tytus Gerrish *
**i would only build a ship in a bottle if i built it with turrets and torpedos and cannons to blast its way out of the bottle **

I agree :slight_smile: maybe a few lazers too.

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It would have to be a really big bottle.:smiley:

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Heck yeah.

Done it before, and would like to do it again.

If anyone does try to build a ship in a bottle, take your time, and go slow, and do a good job. It’s a great thing to have.

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“I made this perfect scale model of the world’s largest bottle. And I just put this ship inside to make it more interesting.”

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when he was a teenager my uncle built a boat in his basement, which is sorta like building a ship in a bottle, cause it would not fit out through the door, and he had to take it apart to get it out of the basement.

I built a boat several years ago, but I assembled it in my garage, thinking of uncle David the whole time :c)

Building a ship in a bottle is one of those things you do because it is time consuming and difficult. I made a chess board once using a big magnifying glass to burn the dark squares into a panel of wood.

So I guess in that aspect, we all build ‘ships in bottles’ in the spirit of the idea, but not literally.