Question about KOP motor usage (Denso thruttle control motor)

Hi everyone, as we dig in our components we found out that we have about six Denso thruttle control motors (AE235100-0160-06) that we never use. Does anyone know the usage of this motor(or have anyone use it on what part before?) and what gearbox does it suppose to go with?

Thanks a lot!

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Throttle motors: paperweights. Low power, nobody uses them.

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Usage: Paperweight.

I can honestly say I’ve never seen or heard of a single one being used. Even the Nidec I’ve heard of ONE.

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842 used them for driving dual turrets on their fuel shooter for 2017.

There is also this beauty.

But seriously. Don’t use the throttle motor on an FRC robot. With the new Johnson Electric motor and the snowblower motor now having native hex shaft outputs it doesn’t even have a use case as a low power motor anymore. I’m sure there are some off season uses that could work but it isn’t worth the time to try to use it in competition.

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I was happy we only had one throttle motor to dump into the recycle bin this year - rather than more…

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The gift that keeps on giving.

I’m not sure I’d even use the throttle motor versa setup on a turret and that’s a pretty low RPM / Power application. We put an AM Neverrest through a versaplanetary the other night and it’s moving very nicely.

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I used one once for the final project for the electronic technician course of one friend

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If you can collect enough of them from your team and other teams near you, they can be put a sturdy sack and given to someone with a boat and no anchor.

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hahahaha lol this so funny but true no one in our region use this

that’s cool lol just find another way to use this

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What do you mean? You are on an island. There must be some fishing boats in the harbour that need an anchor :wink:

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Everybody always bullies this perfectly capable little motor. :cry:

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It has more uses than the Nidec…

Nidec is memed, Denso throttle is ignored. I’d say that’s bullying the Nidec, not the throttle motor.

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They are low power, finicky to mount, but don’t mind being stalled. It stalls before crushing the little yellow ball into weird shapes and you can run two of them on one motor controller. To make it so something useful with it. Drill out a piece of hex shaft a little smaller the the OD of the gear on throttle motor and press in on. Use a complaint wheel. Don’t think it will replaces the Falcons on your shooter. :slight_smile:

We used two on our ball intake for StrongHold. We wanted something to redirect the ball. We are playing with them in the ball indexer for this year. I don’t know if it will make it to competition though.

If you find the right application for them they are fine. We are currently using one on our robot.

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So, the throttle motor is a solution in search of a problem?

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An unfortunate interpretation…

Let me rephrase: There are certain applications where the throttle motor is a fine choice. Teams just need to do a little bit of math, analysis & design.

Considering that in a near-decade of KoP appearances I can count the number of times I’ve seen a throttle motor used effectively on one hand, care to share your application?

Our team doesn’t reveal anything until the robot is “done” so I won’t say much about it, but it’s been working great so far.(It’s nothing special.) In the past we’ve used it on a turret and I think one other thing before my time. It’s a small light motor with medium RPM’s that teams get for free in the KOP. And every now and then it’s the right choice for a certain situation.

There are certainly better motors available for teams, but it’s not outright unusable as many others in this thread appear to believe.

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I had to set up some individual wiring kits to teach our middle-school kids basic electricity during “maker space.”

I have light-bulbs, a coil magnet, LEDs, an EC computer fan.

But every one of these kits needs a brushed-motor to demonstrate too. This motor is pretty good for this. It’s not going to hurt anyone. It was free. It doesn’t take anything out of the box of ‘good’ motors that we might actually want to use.