Our team is looking to grow our in house capabilities this year, particularly in the area of being able to rapidly prototype things out on a laser cutter. I’m looking for advice on cutters that your teams have some experience with - there’s definitely a huge range out there, and I’m trying to simultaneously avoid breaking the bank or getting burned on a cheap Chinese model that breaks after a few months. Any inputs / suggestions?
Probably only plywood / MDF and maybe acrylics. Primarily rapid prototyping and cutting acrylic for electronics / engraved sponsor logos / etc. We would almost definitely need something with filtering / ventilation built in.
We purchased a Nova 35 100W laser from Thunderlaser this summer. It’s more expensive than importing one your self but it’s less of a hassle. It was around $8,000 total for the machine and it comes with everything you need to set it up and that price includes shipping, etc. It also has US based support if you buy it from the US distributor. There are definitely other quality machines or even the little 40W ebay lasers are usable for some things if you want to spend a lot less money.
We have ours hooked into our dust collector to be able to extract fumes outside. Normally the blower that comes with it does a good enough job but when we are cutting lots of plastic we will turn on the dust collector to really pull all the fumes out.
We have been able to cut 1/2" plywood easily (and sort of 3/4" but we are still working on doing it well). We have also cut acrylic, thin polycarb, delrin, MDF, Masonite, PET(G), and more.
That Thunder Laser looks pretty cool. I’ve looked at a lot of the cheaper ones online, but I’m a little worried about getting a cheap import that just breaks down after a few months. For example, I was looking at this: https://www.amazon.com/Engraving-Machine-Engraver-Cutter-Interface/dp/B01I1H3G04 but there seems to be a repeat issue in the reviews with it breaking quickly. Any suggestions on how to go slightly budget like you’re suggesting without having to worry about it being really unreliable?
For the cost, we’ve been pretty happy with the Boss Laser LS-1630 we got about a year ago. But, we haven’t done a whole lot on it yet. Raster engraving is fairly slow compared to a Universal laser, but it’s a fraction of the cost.
Be careful with laser cutting. Aside from the incredibly nasty fumes from plywood glue and acrylic / plexiglass, cutting metal vaporizes into e particles can end up in your lungs.
Ventilate the heck out of it. We have the ones here set up with spark arresters (after a couple of the paper filters caught on fire) and several layers of decreasing sized hepa filters. And don’t let team members change the filters if they don’t understand the danger. Microscopic metal dust isn’t fun in the lungs.
We definitely aren’t looking at anything that could cut metal, just woods and acrylics. I’d leave metal to a CNC or other tool. I definitely agree about needing appropriate ventilation and all though.
I believe this is the machine that Los Angeles Trade Tech college has. You might want to try figuring out who is in charge of it there and see what they say about it.
Just as something to note before you go cutting as mentioned watch out for what type of plywood you use. Try to find stuff that is certified formaldehyde free. You really don’t want to be breathing that stuff in at all.
And for those of you with the deep-weedy expertise to know, can you recommend a laser cutter around 5K that can be modified to do path cutting instead of raster cutting?
Any laser cutter you can buy will be able to cut and engrave. Typically this is controlled by either the line width or color. For example on our system, red lines are cut lines, black lines are engrave lines.
Having used Full Spectrum, Lasersaur, Thunder, BOSS and Epilog, for my money I would buy a Thunder.
The Epilog is the only laser in that list that is mechanically any different and the additional speed from its servos is only helpful if you are doing a lot of rastering.
I wish I could recommend the Lasersaur as the build was a lot of fun but the software is just crap.
As for the rest you are basically just picking the software tool chain you like best. The Thunder and BOSS both use RD Laserworks and Thunder lasers are much cheaper than BOSS making that selection a no brainer IMO.
I have that machine, I would be amazed if anyone could cut 3/4" plywood on it. 1/4 is as thick as I go before it would be faster and easier and cleaner and less beveled and less sooty to use a table saw.
I do love it for what it does, but I don’t know how it could be possible to achieve that without cleaning the lens every five minutes or playing with settings for ages to get it right. Also I haven’t been super impressed with its engraving capabilities. I do all my engraving on my Epilog machine.