Just wondering if people would like to chime in on the maximum number of replays you have seen in eliminations. Since they are replays there are no official records of them, but I was just wondering since this weekend in Las Vegas was crazy for us.
At the Las Vegas Regional, the Semi Finals 2 took 6 matches to decide the winner.
Match 1: A cameraman blocked a ball resulting in a “field fault”
Match 2: 1717 didn’t move for 30 seconds blamed on field
Match 3: Good. 1717 still didn’t move, but blamed on bot. 2122/399/1725 win.
Match 4: Good. 399 blew the 120A breaker, 1717/3476/687 win.
Match 5: 399 tips onto 2 balls, dead ball confusion ensued, match stops early.
Match 6: Good. 1717/3476/687 win.
It was crazy, and our 120A blew because of the tough back to back matches and our 6 cim drive… Has anyone ever played more than 6 in Elims?
Isn’t there supposed to be a certain amount of time between matches to give robots a break? Or is this different for replays? Would someone with knowledge beyond mine please enlighten me?
I guess the way I understood it was refs are apart of the field so if they redirect it…o well. But if anyone else redirects it, and it affects the match, field fault.
I’d say 6 minutes in between sounds about what it was but everyone’s motors were cooking! We took a timeout to change our 120A breaker.
I believe official media, had a big tripod + professional news camera. Knocked a ball that was most likely going to hit his camera, and his tripod was on the HP zone.
There was a LOT of time between matches due to the FTA/CSAs figuring out what was going on and the refs talking. The 6 min back to back timing was meet and probably exceeded.
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but what is “IRI”? Anyways, as I’ve heard, there is no such thing as a dumb question … unless the person asking the question is dumb.
Indian Robotics invitational, one of the biggest off seasons over the summer usually in July. Teams have to apply and get accepted to get in. http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/
IRI is an off season Invitational held @ Lawrence North High School in Indianapolis, Indiana.
It’s basically the FIRST All Star Game.
Think the Championship in concentrated form.
We didn’t get to six matches, but at Groton we played a match, were told we had to replay, played the match again, were told it didn’t count again, then played (and won) twice. We were never told why.
It is really stressful on the robots, playing these matches back to back. We weren’t prepared with batteries and spares to be out on the field this much, especially after the morning where we had two more replayed matches. I know for us there was at least one set of matches where there was much less than a 6 minute field timeout. I like these replays because we ended up with an additional 5 matches for our team in eliminations and qualifications and a bunch of driver practice with our alliance that really helped our elimination alliance make it to the finals.
Yeah with the chances of balls going anywhere, you might want them to stand back father then usual and keep them in the loop about what to do if a ball heads there way.
This reminds me of Curie in 2011. The video and audio guys filming 1717 put their boom mic over the opposing human player inbound station. They ended up blocking several tubes from being thrown in. The HP was not happy and they were told to move and did so. This kind of interference didn’t warrant a replay, not that it would’ve necessarily changed the match outcome.
Perhaps we need to be doing a better job in general educating those with field access.
In south florida the official media stood in the blue alliance in bounding station a lot however I don’t think it caused any replays.
We did have to play 3 replays. 1 due to a full court shot being counted 1 due to a dead ball procedure error and 1 due to 4 robots loosing communication.
We had a pretty crazy time and unfortunate luck with replays this year and we believe it contributed to our loss which is unfortunate but part of the game.
At UNH our alliance including 58 & 4555 had to play 5 semi-final matches and we too have a 6 CIM drivebase so we feel you!
Match 1- Clean (blue wins)
Match 2- Clean (red wins)
Match 3- Blue ball accidentally lands in a red robot who can’t remove it so dead ball called. Blue robot 58 dies with 30 seconds left while holding the new blue ball. Dead ball called but never granted. Blue had the lead but a last second red ball was scored which may have tipped the scales in red favor. Rematch
Match 4- Red pedestal didn’t light up in the final 20 seconds. Rematch
Match 5- Clean match aside for multiple breakdowns on both sides of the glass.
Our CIMs did trip the 120A breaker in Finals match 2 but we were able to cool them down for finals match 3.