Registration Payment: Proforma Invoice vs Quote vs Invoice [mini rant, help needed]

This is a yearly aggravation for our team. Our district for as long as I can remember has an issue with how FIRST generates a proforma Invoice or quote. The bookkeepers need a non-proforma invoice to be able to write a check, create a PO, etc.

For definition sake, and I’m not an accountant so I had to look all of these up for my own sake.

Proforma Invoice: “Pro forma” means “as a matter of form” and is the term used for an invoice that estimates the price or goods of services in advance of shipment or delivery. You can issue a pro forma in situations where it’s impossible to give your customers an exact price, but you’re still able to give them a general idea of the costs involved. Source

Quote: Short for quotation, is a preliminary document provided by a seller to a potential buyer. It serves as an initial estimate of the cost of goods or services and outlines the terms and conditions under which the transaction may take place. Source

Both of those are estimates of the cost, but not actually a final bill with a firm amount the district can actually write on a check.

Invoice: Unlike its proforma sibling, a commercial invoice is non-negotiable, legally binding, and is sent only after the approval process is complete, the transaction has an associated purchase order, bill of lading, and invoice number, and an actual sale has occurred. Source

Our district Bookkeeper:
To me:

I cannot pay this. The district will not accept a quote or proforma invoice. It must say invoice in order for me to pay it.

To FIRST CS and AR emails:

We need to pay this but I am unable to pay via a quote or proforma invoice. Will you be able to send an invoice so I can get this paid?

FIRST Customer Service:
To me:

Thank you for requesting a copy of an invoice to facilitate the payment process for your program registration and materials. We recommend confirming with your institution’s purchasing office if they will accept a quote to generate a purchase order. If they do not accept a quote, we can provide a "Proforma Invoice " but the FIRST® Finance team will require an approved purchase order (PO) before we can issue an actual invoice. Unfortunately, we are unable to issue an invoice without a valid purchase order committing to payment of goods & services provided by FIRST.

So we are stuck between FIRST being unable to make an invoice for the final price and product and the district says we can’t cut a check for something that is still not finalized. I get both sides, but we go through this every single year and it’s like the bookkeepers on both ends forget they emailed each other last year about this exact same thing. Every year someone caves and somehow it is paid and yet they all forget the process the next time. I never get told how it was solved, I just eventually get another email saying we are paid finally.

How do other teams handle this that use school district bookkeepers for registration payment? Do they accept the quote/proforma invoice as the final and if the cost changes they get a refund/pay extra?

As a coach what are my options, I started this process weeks ago and obviously registration payment was due yesterday so we will be late and possibly have our kit delayed anyways. Customer Service took about a week to get back to me about it after I tried chat support. Chat recommended we contact AR as well which we did, but haven’t heard from them directly yet.

It seems like it’s the district who will have to budge on their policy, but based on the definitions of each term FIRST is not doing things in a standard way. Am I misunderstanding the definitions and how payments are supposed to work with POs and invoices?

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Purchase orders are usually started with a quote not an invoice in my experience… maybe you probably didn’t tell the bookkeeper you wanted to start a purchase order request?

In fact I almost always have to get a final invoice that has to be dated after the purchase order is approved by my district office and that is sent by FIRST once you give them the purchase order.

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This is the first time I’ve been in this situation myself. Out district paid for champs registration once, and it was very last minute so they were accommodating. This year, it was more “by the books” for our initial registration.

Here’s how it worked for me:

  • Register team with FIRST and see a $6000 amount due
  • Create a proforma invoice
  • Write a purchase request form for my school district, including the profomra invoice.
  • Wait two months or so, and get an email from the district saying my Purchase Order (PO) is ready (pdf provided)
  • Go into FIRST dashboard and upload the PO as part of payment for registration and first event (More on this below…)
  • When payments are due (11/12), FIRST will send an INVOICE to my district asking for an exact amount, up to the amount on the PO.
  • District sends FIRST a check for amount on invoice.

Seems like your district is wanting to skip the whole estimated amount proforma invoice part, and just straight to writing a check.

And now the nightmare…
I submitted my team’s PO without realizing that the box was checked to apply grants (my mistake). We had the $300 kit or parts grant, and a $3000 Boeing grant. So when I submitted the PO for check out it said “$2700 PO”. I had to get on the phone with FIRST, and took two weeks, to get them to agree to still send an invoice for the full $6000 to my district.

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I gave the bookkeeper a list of all the options I had on screen, the payment methods and the terms for each so they had PO, check or credit card all as options. I wasn’t sure what they normally do so I left it up to the bookkeeper to pick what made the most sense.

I’m gonna expressly ask them to create a PO instead of trying to write a final check and see how that goes. Hopefully it moves a little faster than @Zook s did…

Edit: Going the PO route is the correct answer. This is probably my fault for not understanding how the PO process works. The bookkeeper was able to get a signed PO approved in record time and it was sent off to FIRST. Already got my notification it was received, so now we just sit and wait for the approval.

FIRST CS auto email:

Please note that the review process typically takes 5-7 business days. During this time, the status of your PO on your team’s dashboard will be displayed as “pending/not approved.” Once the review is complete, the status will be updated to either Approved or Declined, and you will receive an email notification regarding this change.

For future reference if others have this issue with their school district it was recommended to me to give them a couple of weeks normally to issue a PO. A one day turnaround is not to be expected.

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Good news everyone!

Congratulations! Your Team or Class Pack Account is registered for the 2024-2025 season, FIRST® DIVESM presented by Qualcomm.

So that was fast. And hopefully that means our kickoff kit won’t be messed up now either. AR didn’t mess around and approved it asap.