Returning to the "Old Normal" - what are your plans?

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#15

We’ve been running zoom meetings, but they’re no substitute for real ones since we’re not really building anything. We’re going to try to experiment by holding programming meetings online. Basically I’ll have an FRC robot running in my home, and I will share an environment students can get to in a web browser where they can take turns deploying their code to the robot. The students will join a zoom meeting and I’ll have a webcam pointed at the robot so they can observe what it’s doing.

I’ll be self hosting with https://www.gitpod.io/, and the plan is for students to be able to use vscode without having to set anything up or install anything. They could even program on a chromebook if they have to. If this setup works out we might use parts of it when we can meet normally, since it takes away the pain of having to set up every student’s computer. Typically in the past we’ve had to gather all the students around a mentor’s computer for the sake of saving time and not having any additional computers available that could run the necessary software.

#16

For a barometer I’m looking at what our school district decides about football. If it gets nixed then it will be difficult to impossible to get permission for any extracurricular/afterschool activities. OTOH, it if goes forward then it will be equally difficult for the powers that be to ban robotics meetings. I mean, we hardly ever smash into each other!

Regards recruiting we went out on a limb last year and promoted four 8th graders to the team. Since we are only losing two seniors, we’ll be functional even if traditional recruiting is disrupted. More problematically we were supposed to move into our school’s newly built STEM center. That’s all been thrown into confusion. Oh well.

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#17

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Our workspaces are either in the local university, which is going to stay shut down for a while, or in a school building that is also going to stay shut down for a while. We have been meeting online weekly and have been administering online classes to younger students. West Virginia put out opening guidelines and protocols as to what-opens-when, but in the end we can’t make things outside the university workspace and can’t drive anything outside the school workspace. Even whenever it opens up again, I doubt we will have full-scale meetings for a while.

The first step would probably be a few specific people who practice proper social distancing in and out of the workspace. They might make the parts to a prototype we design outside the shop online, or practice driving the robot and testing code. We also have a separate project for the university that is pretty equivalent to installing an electric golf cart system into a 1950’s-style bullet train with shag carpet, and that’s going to eat up another portion of our workload. After that would probably be multiple isolated groups with no contact between each other. Same deal, just more people. Then, steady progression with larger and larger isolated groups based on what the state’s opening up guidelines say, what the school board says, and what the university says.

Really though, anything could change at any time and we aren’t rushing to meet in person as of right now.

#18

We are sticking with virtual meetings for now, but I could see in person meeting happening at some point over the summer depending on the trajectory of COVID cases in our area and guidance from school. I’m at an independent school in a state where lots of restrictions have been eased already. I know local high school sports are practicing/will resume practice soon.

At best? I guess we might be able to gather in person in our lab by mid- or late- June, but not unless I’ve had a chance to rearrange the space for optimal social distancing. Masks required. Likely split to subteam meetings only. The extra time away has given us time to develop some new safety trainings (thanks to inspiration from 624 and FIRSTinTX virtual conferences).

In addition to the virtual meetings for our team, we moved the recruiting online by inviting middle school kids into our summer video workshops. We’re running FLL club online and Iooking to start a younger FLL group. The FIRST@home resources are pretty good. I think we’re taking the new normal as a chance to re-evaluate and streamline in a way that we might not have tried otherwise.

#19

Our school district has closed all facilities though the month of June with potential extension based on what’s going on a month from now. Our team leadership has been holding weekly team leadership and subteam meetings over Discord and we are planning a team CADathon to keep the kids engaged over the summer. This is also a great opportunity for our team to work on stuff we don’t need to be in the machine shop for such as business and sponsor documents, that we don’t have the number of members or bandwidth to dedicate lots of time to normally. We are keeping our meetings as low-key as possible so that our members can cope with the current situation in the way that works best for them. We will follow all guidelines from the CDC, School and district, and other official sources when (or if) the team meets next time.

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#20

Which sports? Here, even in Iowa (which had a response many found lacking), only baseball and softball are being allowed to start soon. Presumably because most of the players are typically quite far apart most of the time.

When thinking of social distancing, I think back to all the robot assembly operations this past build season that took two or more students to do and I am concerned.

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#21

In SC, the sport to watch is Football. It will be the first sport to begin practice and hold competitions.
We are going to follow the guidelines set by the state and district. Equally important will be the comfort level of members, their parents, and our mentors.
Initially we will probably have limited meetings: rookie training with new members and a few mentors, robot refit and repair with team leadership, etc.

#22

I’m going to be going on many cruises to Sweden.

Jokes aside, we’re still in phase 1 in the Seattle area and the difference between phase 1 and lockdown really doesn’t make a difference for my family. When we get to phase 2, I may see about going kayaking with a friend or two since we’ll be allowed to be in groups of up to 5.

#23

We’re trying to see about doing a summer baseball league cause spring was cancelled, but I doubt it will happen.

#24

I’m in Tennessee. I know several of the public high schools with big football programs have started in person summer workouts. Seems early to me. Local news articles I’ve seen showing groups of students working out in small weight rooms without masks were unexpected.

I don’t want my robotics kids to end up as a COVID anecdote shared by local media. I can’t really see us doing robot assembly projects in person right now, or in the next several weeks. Eventually, we’ll need to work in person again (as school will likely be in August) but reworking the space we build in and safety protocols are high on the priority list for making that feasible. I expect we’ll keep up virtual meetings as a part of our program.

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#25

Where’s that spotlight feature when you need it?

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#26

We are having our first in-person meeting this week since everything shut down mid-March. Here in Israel businesses have been slowly re-opening according to government guidelines for almost a month, and we haven’t seen any resurgence yet (knock on wood). This is just an administrative meeting so we don’t have to worry about students clustered together working on a single robot, and we plan on following the Ministry of Health’s guidelines on workplace safety to keep everyone safe.

Israel is doing significantly better than the US is right now, with 2320 active cases (26/million population) and falling compared to the US with 1.12 million active cases (3420/million population) and rising. Some of that may be due to the warm weather recently, but it’s also thanks to an efficacious healthcare system and rigorous contact tracing. I don’t think meeting in person will be a regular thing for a while, but it is nice to have some semblance of normalcy again. And for the students who worked long hours together every day and were suddenly forced to separate for months, I’m sure they appreciate getting to interact face-to-face with their friends.

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#27

Well, FIRSTly I can see WI guidelines being moderately helpful for us. Long winded and the usual phases and such. But the stages in which you can only have ten people working together indoors, and with masks, should help us with team cohesiveness. We can absolutely make the different subteams meet and work together rather than drifting here and there randomly. Also, mask stylin’, looking forward to that. It might be best to have rookies as a separate group at least in the early phases. I’m optimistic.

I can relate to the concerns that we all share, but to the extent that we have actual numbers they have some reassuring trends. New York with a horrific number of deaths - over 40K - has had as of last week exactly 9 in the 0-17 demographic. And six of those had pre-existing conditions. So for kids on the team with asthma and such, sure there is some risk in excess of their drive home at night. But realistically we need to look more at the issues related to community transmission. As I’m in the grandparent demographic, and happily there, I’m quite aware and can gauge my own risk tolerance but it may not be the same as everyone else’s.

Finally, and hopefully less controversially, this is science…but not the sort FIRST is used to dealing with. Seasonal variance of viruses and mutation rates change often unpredictably. Imagine trying to calculate a launch trajectory when Newton’s Laws change without previous notice! Ah, brings back my earlier medical career. Being a mentor and grandpa is way more fun.

T. Wolter

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#28

I don’t think that’s a cause of COVID-19 cases dropping since Singapore had cases and it’s hot and humid there all year long.

#29

I agree with the posts that we will never return to “old normal.” Society has improved in lots of ways since 1918, but evidently there are some mistakes we didn’t learn from. Let’s try to learn from this, and not return to normal.

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When will we meet again? Once there’s a vaccine and cases are low and stable (not just stable), I’d consider having meetings with new processes in place.

#30

I can’t speak to any specific country, but there is research saying that hotter temperatures help prevent the spread of the virus. There was a heat wave here this past week (above 101° in most of the country for 6 days straight), and some restrictions were lifted specifically during the heat wave because of the hotter temperatures.

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#31

This year we’re still see a mix of precautions.
We will be more accepting of facemasks.

#32

The extreme optimist would say there is a vaccine right now and that many people reading this have already had it.

So of course that means…

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#34

Actually, our schools reopen in two weeks, so at least we’ll get to see each other again. We already discussed about postponing the first team meeting to July though, since some of our mentors are over 65 or have other health problems that prevent them from going outside while the virus is still around.

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