You guys hear about this crap? After all the deadlines he’s missed (or ignored) he wants to talk about why we want to kick him out of power. That’s like sitting in History class, doing no homework, no classwork, and sitting the idly while a test is given out, then asking, at the end of the marking period, to sit down and talk with your teacher about your grades, discussing just why you should get a failing grade. Any other thoughts?
Lets see that proof Hussein is lying. Lets see Busch debate will Hussein and let Bush bring out the proof. Then I’ll be behind this war 120%.
I also think that Hussein will be buring himself by doing this.
Hussein is an ignoramous. Bush an ignoramous. The idea of them debating reminds me of that Monty Pyhton skit with the idiots running that obstecle course race. If it ever happened (which it won’t) It would be an interesting car wreck to watch.
i think it would be interesting to see both sides have to reply to the arguments of the other, in real time with less of an ability to spin things off…
The US could bring up all of the stuff that sadame has done bad…
and Sadame can bring up how the US used to help iraq when they were at war with iran and how we still bomb them every day have since 1991, but then again i am a crazy revolutionist who doesn’t want war…so i must not love america…
so i’ll stop typing now…
neither side would ever agree to this and even if they did it would be like any political debate, noone ever really answers with anything of substance…its all a matter of saying absolutely nothing so that it sounds like everything!
*Originally posted by oneangrydwarf *
**neither side would ever agree to this and even if they did it would be like any political debate, noone ever really answers with anything of substance…its all a matter of saying absolutely nothing so that it sounds like everything! **
I believe the term is “Talking loud and saying nothing.”
*Originally posted by Koko Ed *
**The idea of them debating reminds me of that Monty Pyhton skit with the idiots running that obstecle course race. If it ever happened (which it won’t) It would be an interesting car wreck to watch. **
Dim-Wit of the Year? Ah yes that one. Gotta love the jumping over the match box obsticale and the final where they must shoot themselves.
I’m sorry, but is it just me, or is every current world leader a giant idiot? The debate would get us nowhere. Hussein is just trying to buy more time. Every deadline is one that he missed. I seriously think tighter visual surveillance should be held on Iraq. The stuff Powell presented at that meeting a while ago was all inconclusive. It was a bunch of trucks moving around at a wierd time…how does that help us? I want to see Iraq disarmed as much as the next guy, and I am sure he has some crap stuffed somewhere that he knows he’s not supposed to have, but what proof do we have?
personaly i dont think any country should have chemical or biological weapons or even nuclear weapons…that includes the US and our alies.
i’m not defending sadame by any means…but all countries thumb their noses at the UN. I think this is because many of the big leader countries like the US dont stick with the UN and do things outside of the UN like we are talking about doing now. Most people dont know it but we haven’t even paid our dues to the UN since the mid-eighties when Reagan decided that he didn’t like some of policies of the UN and the fact that they gave money to Planned Parenthood so we stoped paying and haven’t since then. Why should we require any other country to do what the UN says while at the same time say that we are prepaired to act without the UN’s approval.
This whole situation is out of hand and its almost to the point of no return where it cant end in a good way.
Why am i ranting about all of this again…i forgot why i started this post.
*Originally posted by Koko Ed *
**Hussein is an ignoramous. Bush an ignoramous. The idea of them debating reminds me of that Monty Pyhton skit with the idiots running that obstecle course race. If it ever happened (which it won’t) It would be an interesting car wreck to watch. **
Bah, if you are going to criticize the intelligence of a world leader, please be able to spell all the words in your sentence correctly
- Obstacle
I’m not even gonna bother posting my opinion on the subject matter because I would prob. get replys like the ones above
gotta love political debates…
there will always be people who think war is good…i mean if the u.s. felt the need to attack canada they would support it.
on the same token there are those who disagree with war no matter the cirucmstances surrounding it.
the situation with iraq currently has gone from a war to get saddam to disarm to a regime change. all in this shiny armor we call democracy. this presidents current policy regarding the “axis of evil” is one that allows no compromise due to the u.s. looking weak if we allow any debate or if we back down.
This policy has the worst reprocussions not with iraq but with N.Korea. Because of the “hardliner” policy bush will not sit down with kim to even discuss the current situation, bush just put it on the back burner hoping that it would magically go away. yesterday n.korea test fired a missile(not ballistic) into the sea of japan yet it was ignored. the game of brinkmanship is being played with the stakes higher than some people realize.
i am not in favor of this war because even though saddam has done horrible things to even his own people(not to mention what we did to the japanese-americans in ww2) are we really the country who decides who is right and who is wrong? Does a terrorist attack just give us all the right to walk into the middle east and change regimes at our lesiure. why risk the lives of so many to eliminate on dictator who really does not pose a threat to the u.s.?
Saddam Hussein DOESN’T DESERVE a debate. He had his chance. No matter what he says it is bound to be a lie. I mean come on IF Saddam Hussein wanted peace then why is he making bio gas and weapons of mass destruction.
The thing I don’t get though is the people that don’t want war and say no matter what, we shouldn’t go to war. Saddam Hussein in an interview said he will use the weapons on us. Did the anti-war people see this interview? I think not.
you want to know why saddam is making wmd? almost for the same reason n.korea is…the u.s. only recognizes countries that have the destructive force of chemical or nuclear weapons…even if they do not pose a threat to us.
however for those 200,000+ soldiers over there saddam will use chemical or biological weapons as a last resort. remeber when saddam used chemical weapons against the kurds as punishment for trying to overthrow him? what did the u.s. do…we stood by and watched, we did not try to stop him even though we knew when it was going to happen.
the u.s. has a policy of “we can have nuclear, chemical and biological weapons but you cannot”
ok, the Python skit is Twit of the Year.
I’m not a political person, never was, but no politician has ever said anything that i’ve heard that has held water, so why debate over it?
*Originally posted by Pin Man *
Saddam Hussein DOESN’T DESERVE a debate. He had his chance. No matter what he says it is bound to be a lie. I mean come on IF Saddam Hussein wanted peace then why is he making bio gas and weapons of mass destruction.
You mean, like we do?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for going to war with Iraq–I just think most everyone has the wrong reason. I think war for oil is ludicrous (even though that’s half the reason we’re going to war–notice we’re not that interested in N. Korea). I also think Iraq poses only a trivial threat to the U.S. Silencing voices of dissent only causes actions of dissent.
I try to think of myself as a good person–one who will always help others and stick up for the little guy. Yet for the last fifty years our country has ignored the little guy–the ‘Ethnically cleansed’ in Serbia, the people under the crushing heel of North Korean and Chinese regimes–the millions of oppressed women of Muslim nations. The dying continent of Africa, of which the world’s scientific community should be trying to fix. Countless others. I believe we should remove Saddam, simply for his incredible lack of respect of, and wanted destruction of, human life. That in itself is enough. That in itself, to me, is all that matters. It is true that the world is not black and white, but I think we can tell a VERY dark shade of grey apart from a light one. This war could be a step in the right direction.
Then again, ignoring international law and sending in a hundred Navy Seales (you can’t just kill Saddam, you have to take out the entire regime) would fix the problem more efficiently with less loss of human life. That, in my opinion, was the best course of action for everyone. Saddam has had his chance over and over. We’ve even offered him lack of prosecution for his crimes if he were to step into exile. There’s just no reasoning with some crazy people.
To sum it up, I think we, as the largest military force in the workd, in a position to help oppressed peoples, should. It’s called being a decent human being, people.
*Originally posted by John Bono *
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for going to war with Iraq–
Wow i dont even think i should respond to this statement…
War is bad for small children and other living things…
ISn’t there a poster like that or something?
WAR = BAD! PEOPLE DIE! Thats bad!
just my opinion
If we all played with lego’s everyone would be happy!:]
Well, if it’s the only way to fix the problem (I don’t exactly think we can talk Hussein into not being a malevolent despot)…
*Originally posted by Koko Ed *
**Hussein is an ignoramous. Bush an ignoramous. The idea of them debating reminds me of that Monty Pyhton skit with the idiots running that obstecle course race. If it ever happened (which it won’t) It would be an interesting car wreck to watch. **
Do NOT underestimate Saddam Hussein. Other than this offer of talks, can you think of one recent instance where he has not played his cards right? When it comes to securing his position, he is quite gifted.
To Oneangrydwarf: Note that John Bono qualified his statement. He did not say that war is good. He said that war with Iraq is the best course of action at the moment. Really, there is no other choice. Hussein is not going to step down, and will not give up his control over his country. Thus, force WILL be necessary. It doesn’t matter when we do it, as long as we don’t allow him enough time to set up disastrous contingency plans. Of course, it’s way too late for that . . .
He is doing it because he believes it will be an oppurtunity for him to publicly humiliate Bush. Hussein is a very smart man, just a little misguided.
why should he have to step down? We have no right to tell him to step down.
Democracy is will of the people being ruled…not the will of some other democratic country…
If we want them to be truely democratic they must do it themselves, and not be simply a puppet government that we put into place and use for our own reasons.
I still dont think war is the only answer.
Hissein has so much bloody power over there that the people are afraid to speak against him. The trouble with letting them form their own democratic government, in my view, is that since he has just about every election rigged (HELLO! 100% approval rating!), someone (US) has to step in and straighten everything out. A democracy cannot be started if the current leader doesn’t let it happen, and do you really think Hussein is going to say, “Oh, you know what? You’re right, I am being unfair.”, and step off? Think about what all the people of Iraq will do. They’ve been stuck under this tyrant for YEARS and have been too scared to do anything about it…what will happen when they realize he has lost all his power, especially if of his own will? I think he’s mostly scared to step down, seeing as he’s dug such a HUGE hole for himself. He’s standing in his grave as it is…maybe he’s provoking war so that he can go out with a bang.