Posted by nick reynolds.
Engineer on team #237, sie h2o bots, from watertown high school watertown ct and sieman co.
Posted on 9/29/2000 10:46 PM MST
In one match at Epcot our team scored 23 points and the other side scored 9, however
at the end of the game we were told the other side were penalized for some errors.
The first judges took 6 points off their score so instead of our team getting 27 QP 3x9
we only got 9 QP 3X3 points?. so who were FIRST punishing, the teams that made an error
or our teams who did their best in the game to win.
The loss of the 18 QP’S made a great difference to our standing score so does any
one have any thoughts.
I have been through the video so many times but from start to finish I can find no
error nor is there a single flag thrown down, The team that made the errror should have lost
the points but the winning teams should have gotten the full score.
Does any one agree.
nick
Posted by Nick .
Student on team #240, Mach V, from Jefferson Monroe High School and Visteon.
Posted on 9/30/2000 10:57 AM MST
In Reply to: scoring penalty unfair posted by nick reynolds on 9/29/2000 10:46 PM MST:
I have not previously heard of this situation, but I must say I do agree that you should have recieved the full points for your high score. I hope that FIRST puts a clause in the rules addressing this issue for the next season of robotics.
Posted by Joe Johnson. [PICTURE: SAME | NEW | HELP]
Engineer on team #47, Chief Delphi, from Pontiac Central High School and Delphi Automotive Systems.
Posted on 9/30/2000 1:07 PM MST
In Reply to: Re: scoring penalty unfair posted by Nick on 9/30/2000 10:57 AM MST:
If FIRST keeps the same or similar Qpoint scheme, then the penalties should be given to your opponent not taken from your score.
OR How about this: In addition to your score teams would get a ‘penalty score’
The penalty score would be added to the losing score when they calculate your opponent’s Qpoints ALSO, when they calculate your team’s Qpoints, the Penalty Score would be subtracted from the loosing score.
Win or loose, a penalty would help your opponents & hurt your team.
What do you think?
Joe J.
Posted by Jim Meyer.
Engineer on team #67, HOT Team, from Huron Valley Schools and GM Milford Proving Ground.
Posted on 10/2/2000 8:28 AM MST
In Reply to: How about giving the penalty to opponents? posted by Joe Johnson on 9/30/2000 1:07 PM MST:
: If FIRST keeps the same or similar Qpoint scheme, then the penalties should be given to your opponent not taken from your score.
: OR How about this: In addition to your score teams would get a ‘penalty score’
: The penalty score would be added to the losing score when they calculate your opponent’s Qpoints ALSO, when they calculate your team’s Qpoints, the Penalty Score would be subtracted from the loosing score.
: Win or loose, a penalty would help your opponents & hurt your team.
: What do you think?
: Joe J.
What if the game was closer? Opponent has 12 pts, you have 10. Opponent has a 3 pt. penalty. Does it make sense to get 45 or 36 Qpoints when you only scored 10 pts yourself?
Posted by Matt Ryan.
Student on team #69, HYPER, from Quincy Public Schools and Gillette.
Posted on 10/1/2000 3:47 PM MST
In Reply to: scoring penalty unfair posted by nick reynolds on 9/29/2000 10:46 PM MST:
I agree, the only team that should be punished is the team that commits a penalty. You should have gotten full score.
I have a rather biased view: they just didn’t think about how it would affect the winning team, they just thought of how it would affect the losing team.
-=Matt=-
Team 69 Intelligence Agency (TIA)