My team has been considering shooting into the amp in addition to the speaker. We are wondering whether it is worth it to accomplish this, according to our CAD models a 75 degree or above angle will suffice but then we will have to make an angle changing mechanism to accommodate the speaker.
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The tricky part will be the fact that the amp is a shallow goal with little room for error. If you shoot a note in there and it doesn’t have very consistent dynamic behavior, you’ll bounce out a lot. That’s not to say a shooter for amp isn’t possible, but the critical part for anyone attempting it is prototyping and practice. Prototyping to make sure you can feasibly build a shooter with enough control to reliably interact with the amp, and practice to assess the final variability of the mechanism so that you can be confident you’ll make the shot greater than X% of the time. This will require building an accurate mockup of the amp, preferably with the real materials to make sure interactions are consistent with the official field.
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The notes are 2" thick. The amp is 3" deep. Shooting into the amp is going to be VERY difficult.
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Cranberry alarm is testing this on stream right now with their shooter that’s pretty similar to the kitbot.
Edit: if you go back around 20-30 minutes they were testing a pasta roller intake on the amp shooting it downwards and that worked really well.
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Looks like shooting up into the AMP is tough when shooting down seams to work way better
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Looks like it could be done with a modified kitbot.
Agreed, I think you can get it reliable with a deflector plate of some kind on the end of the shooter.
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While we were messing around with the note yesterday, we discovered if you throw it really fast and hard at the wall, the note will press up flat against the wall and fall straight down quite reliably. Whether or not you can actually make a mechanism that can shoot the note at the speed and force required to do so is another question entirely, but it could be a promising approach if somebody manages to do that. Something to note, however, is that we only tested this by throwing it at a painted cinder block wall, so the actual interaction the note will have with the amp when shot from a robot could very well be different
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FUN Ri3D Cranberry Alarm has just posted a video about shooting into the AMP.
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we found that aiming for the deflector at the top of the amp is helpful.
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Love this, kind of ridiculous it works!! Have you done more than one trial to test the consistency and if so what were the results?
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wasn’t there today, but the team was doing a shotgun approach to Prototypes today. They said they did it between 5-10 times and was “consistent.” We will have more data Tuesday.
They also said the angle was right around 45 degrees.
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Shooting into the amp in a similar way to the speaker is gonna be very difficult. It may be possible to use the same shooting mechanism just angled down towards the inside of the amp to score that way.
If this is consistent, this would help simplify designs a lot! Also interested to see how much wiggle room there is in the angle of the shooter and if that would affect consistency.
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Do you have an update on this? If you don’t mind sharing, of course.
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we had massive storms in the area last night. 50+ MPH gusts. All activities were canceled. We are going to try and get back to the shop this evening.
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We had the storm yesterday morning, must have moved up to y’all (My team is located near Atlanta). Are y’all okay?
Seems we just have some power outages, downed trees and some typical low area flooding. Nothin too bad.
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Sorry about that, hope all ok and ready to keep going!
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It is definitely possible to “shoot” into the amp, with my teams limited testing thus far, we have determined it much easier to drop the note into the amp upwards at 80deg or downwards with staggered rollers.
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