Posted by colleen - T190 at 1/21/2001 2:52 PM EST
Engineer on team #190, Gompei, from Massachusetts Academy of Math and Science and WPI.
Hey y’all–
We built our stretcher and goal according to those lovely blueprints included in the manual (right next to the blueprints of the robot that came with it :-P)
Basically… we’re having issues about how far away the horizontal bar on both are from the edge of the plywood. Looking at kickoff pictures, it seems the kee klamps are right on the edge, but according to the drawing they are in a different place. What did everyone else do… it’s something we need to know ASAP.
Thanks so much…
Colleen
Posted by Raul at 1/21/2001 5:55 PM EST
Engineer on team #111, Wildstang, from Rolling Meadows & Wheeling HS and Motorola.
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Posted by colleen - T190 on 1/21/2001 2:52 PM EST:
As I understand it, the goals they used at Kickoff are wrong. The goal bases were originally about 34" wide and now are about 36" (don’t remember the exact numbers). But, just do what the print says; that’s what we did.
Raul
Posted by Brian at 1/21/2001 7:18 PM EST
Student on team #56, Robbe Xtreme, from Bound Brook High School and Ethicon Inc…
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Posted by Raul on 1/21/2001 5:55 PM EST:
Well if i recall we put ours so the aluminum bar touched the PVC pipes on the goal is that correct?
Posted by Frank Toussaint at 1/22/2001 9:27 AM EST
Engineer on team #111, Wildstang, from Wheeling and Rolling Meadows and Motorola .
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Posted by Brian on 1/21/2001 7:18 PM EST:
In the first goal we made, with the 34+ inch base, the aluminum pipe touched the vertical pipe. When we rebuilt it with the 36+ inch base the aluminum pipes were well away from the vertical pipes. The drawings that came with the kit are wrong (per FIRST); use the drawings dated 1/8/2001 on FIRST’s documentation page on their web site: http://www.usfirst.org/2001comp/Docs/
Posted by ChrisH at 1/22/2001 3:41 PM EST
Engineer on team #330, Beach 'Bots, from Hope Chapel Academy and NASA JPL, J & F Machine, Raytheon, et al.
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Posted by Frank Toussaint on 1/22/2001 9:27 AM EST:
: In the first goal we made, with the 34+ inch base, the aluminum pipe touched the vertical pipe. When we rebuilt it with the 36+ inch base the aluminum pipes were well away from the vertical pipes. The drawings that came with the kit are wrong (per FIRST); use the drawings dated 1/8/2001 on FIRST’s documentation page on their web site: http://www.usfirst.org/2001comp/Docs/
Before you build make sure you have CURRENT documentation. This is a problem even in the real world, get used to it. We tossed all of our Rev 1 drawings to make sure we didn’t get confused. It is also important to remember that documentation changes can happen through Team Updates as well as drawing changes.
Posted by Janna at 1/21/2001 6:11 PM EST
Student on team #349, The RoBahamas, from International Academy and Ford Motor Company and Robert Bosch GmbH.
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Posted by colleen - T190 on 1/21/2001 2:52 PM EST:
Colleen-
We built our goal according to the plans at first, but it looked messed up (poles all bent inward towards the bottom.) So we moved the kee klamps for the grabby-bar-thing right to the edge and the poles out until they lined up. Hope you figure it out. 
Janna
Posted by Suneet Upadhyay at 1/21/2001 6:50 PM EST
Student on team #599, Robo Dox, from Granada Hills High School and C.S.U.N. and NASA/JPL and various.
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Posted by colleen - T190 on 1/21/2001 2:52 PM EST:
Hello.
Although I can’t be sure as to the exact nature of your problem, I can say this: The blue prints that came with the manual are in some way inaccurate for the stretcher, as stated by team update #1. The new blueprints are in the competition documentation section of the FIRST website, under “Playing Field”.
Hope it helps.
Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/21/2001 9:31 PM EST
Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NONE AT THE MOMENT! :(.
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Posted by colleen - T190 on 1/21/2001 2:52 PM EST:
try banging your head on the blueprints…it worked for me.
-anton
Posted by Matt Leese at 1/21/2001 9:41 PM EST
Other on team #73, Tigerbolt, from Edison Technical HS and Alstom & Rochester Institute of Technology.
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Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/21/2001 9:31 PM EST:
Well, just be sure you don’t confuse the blood with the lines on the blueprints. What? No of course I didn’t do that…
Matt who let someone else build the goal
Posted by mike o’leary at 1/22/2001 9:36 AM EST
Student on team #419, rambots, from bc high.
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Posted by Anton Abaya on 1/21/2001 9:31 PM EST:
: try banging your head on the blueprints…it worked for me.
: -anton
thats cuz youre only an engineer, right?
mike oleary
Posted by Anton Abaya at 1/23/2001 1:14 AM EST
Coach on team #419, Rambots, from UMass Boston / BC High and NONE AT THE MOMENT! :(.
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Posted by mike o’leary on 1/22/2001 9:36 AM EST:
: : try banging your head on the blueprints…it worked for me.
: : -anton
:
: thats cuz youre only an engineer, right?
: mike oleary
right.