I go to wipe my eyes for a second… a guard tells me to put on safety glasses. Ten minutes later I wipe my eyes again … hey put those safety glasses on. A blairing anouncement over the pit announcing system “safety glasses must be worn or OSHA will shut us down”.
Go watch a match, two feet in pit area while cleaning glasses on my shirt, Sir you need to put safety glasses on.
This is just day one. Repeat for four more days.
I am all for safety, and yet this was way overboard.
At two regionals I attended they didn’t push safety glasses at all, no announcements or anything. However, at UTC, they reminded everyone about it every 10 minutes over the pit intercom, but nobody personally approached you to remind you to put them on. It sounds like they did go a little overboard.
At VCU, they were really extreme about these things. There were 2-3 people in the pits at all times looking for people without safety glasses on. Announcements every 5-10 minutes.
Doesn’t this create a problem that there isn’t any way for visiters to borrow safety glasses, yet they are encouraged to wander around the pits? I got bugged when I wasn’t even close to ANY robot.
And you thought the Soup Nazi was bad…return of the Safety Glasses Nazis!!!
its just the little crew people on their power trips, i just laugh at them after awhile (and i did have my saftey glasses on, they were just on top of my head :))
Don’t get me wrong…wearing saftey glasses is never a BAD idea…and better safe than sorry…BUT…
S3. Team members must wear safety glasses when working on their robot in the pit area. They are also highly recommended if adjacent neighboring team(s) are working on their robot(s).
The RULES APPENDIX seems reasonable…some regionals just went a little overboard.
While safety glasses are a good idea, I do think that the officials at some regionals went a little overboard on enforcement. It’s really bad when the people enforcing the rule aren’t wearing them.
Oh yeah Greg…at MMR there was the Safety man, a FIRST official who was wearing a hard hat and no safety glasses…but he went around yelling at people to put their safety glasses on…Although Friday and Saturday I did not see anyone walk around…
i remember the safety glasses guy a MMR. He just kinda glared at u until u put them on. though they werent really all that strict about it as at some points most of our team was standing there after a match and not many had safety glasses on.
I heard this as a rumour… I dunno if it is true but during the Canadian Regional, a girl from another team just pulled her safety glasses just to the tip of her nose so that she could rub her eye. And one of the officials told her that she isn’t allowed to do that cuz you could get disqualified.
I just think it is a little overboard. As if the 5 feet by 5 feet sheet of plexi glass isn’t enough…
I mean, what is wrong with rubing your eyes? If someone’s eyes are agitated, it probably means there is something in them. And if there is something in her eyes, it probably means:
the safety glasses arn’t working anyways
it is better to be able to remove that “thing” out of your eyes than let it sit there and make your eyes water and even go partically blind.
I dunno, I just think the rule is a little strict…
I mean, I was a camera guy, sitting on the side, pretty close (liek 4 feet) to the field, WITHOUT plexi glass between me and the field, WITHOUT safety glasses and no one complained.
At both regionals I attended (Philly and Toronto) the kept announcing that everyone in the pits must wear safety glasses and that everyone out on the field must have them on, also that the FIRST crew members must have them. No one went around the pits checking for them. The sad part is that more then half the crew members did not wear them either…
At the Buckeye regional they stressed safety glasses but there wasn’t anyone (that I saw) going around telling people to put them on.
At the WMR things were different. Announcements every 15 minutes, officials telling people to put them on and people asked to leave the pits.
Since I was actively looking for people without safety glasses as the judge for the MOEward for safety, I was shocked at the Philly regional by how few people were wearing safety glasses. I can see how some people might have it slip their mind, but I reminded them and they still didn’t put them on. Trust me people, wear your safety glasses. The image of a pair of safety glasses with a piece of metal permenately lodged in it keeps my memory on it and the glasses over my eyes.
At KSC i dont rember the saftey goggles being that big of a deal, we had ours on always in the pit, but I never saw anyone going around teling people to put glasses on. They announced it everyso often. But then again we are the First regionals so usually there is lots of chaos cause lots of things dont work the way they plan.
*Originally posted by XRaVeNX *
**I heard this as a rumour… I dunno if it is true but during the Canadian Regional, a girl from another team just pulled her safety glasses just to the tip of her nose so that she could rub her eye. And one of the officials told her that she isn’t allowed to do that cuz you could get disqualified.
I just think it is a little overboard. As if the 5 feet by 5 feet sheet of plexi glass isn’t enough…
I mean, what is wrong with rubing your eyes? If someone’s eyes are agitated, it probably means there is something in them. And if there is something in her eyes, it probably means:
the safety glasses arn’t working anyways
it is better to be able to remove that “thing” out of your eyes than let it sit there and make your eyes water and even go partically blind.
I dunno, I just think the rule is a little strict…
I mean, I was a camera guy, sitting on the side, pretty close (liek 4 feet) to the field, WITHOUT plexi glass between me and the field, WITHOUT safety glasses and no one complained. **
I was never threatened with a DQ in canada and my glasses were not on as often as they should have been. That said, I always had them on when i thought it was appropriate, using tools, on the field, and during matches.
Our team is pretty lax about wearing safety goggles, and we were only reminded once when a judge passed by and saw us working. Were more afraid of large, blunt objects since our robot last year was very clumsy.
Stephen - you had a guard in the pit area at regionals? I dont remember seeing any at KSC except a very serious looking guy from the swat team near the stage during the award ceremony.
if i recall correctly the announcer at philly threatned many times to send out the attack monkeys on any who wasnt wearing saftey glasses…i was almost hoping for the monkeys but of course safety comes first.
May I recommend everyone go out and buy some COMFORTABLE safety glasses. For the cost of about $10 you can buy a pair with adjustable sides and nosepads and an overall better form factor then those cheap horridly uncomfortable ( and constantly fogging) glasses suplied by most teams. A comfortable pair you call your own will make you much less likely to pull them off constantly. I have even forgotten I am wearing mine. Try checking out your local hardware store ( I got mine at Lowes). The emphasis on safety glasses varies widely from regional to regional. At KSC we wore ours but I never saw anyone asked to put them on in the pits, there seemed to be absolutely no enforcement except for the drive teams, and even that was lax (we were allowed to remove them in the staging area behind the feild). At MMR it was much stricter, with the MMR Safety Man going around making sure people wore them (humourously, he caught our sw guy (who was frantically programming some expiremental code on a laptop) somewhere between 20-30 times, to the point where he just kinda gave him a look everytime he came by, which immediatly cuase our sw guy to put his glasses back on). I honestly do not think we have a right to complain about how a regional decides to enforce safety glasses. It is after all their property, and they are the ones responsible when a student loses an eye. It is fully within their right to mandate we wear the glasses, even if they themselves dont.
Yeah. KSC was really lax. So was SBPLI. At both the drive teams all had to wear them, of course, and that was well-enforced, but in the pits nobody said anything to any member of our team - and we had a lot of people running in and out of the pits constantly.
*Originally posted by ComBBAT_Amy *
**if i recall correctly the announcer at philly threatned many times to send out the attack monkeys on any who wasnt wearing saftey glasses…i was almost hoping for the monkeys but of course safety comes first. **
Well, of course, at Long Island the monkeys weren’t trained to attack. They were, according to the announcer, under the scorer’s table operating the ScoreFIRST DB instead… :rolleyes:
*Originally posted by ComBBAT_Amy *
**if i recall correctly the announcer at philly threatned many times to send out the attack monkeys on any who wasnt wearing saftey glasses…i was almost hoping for the monkeys but of course safety comes first. **
The monkeys hurt!
OW, with the claws and the HURTING!
the only person for guidanced I can turn to is prof. frink :
-“the goggles, they do nothing!”
-“that monkey is going to pay!”
LI was lax about this also but most were following the rule (in cluding me since my were wired on my body and I had no choice! :rolleyes: , I did get alot of “whats that?” though )
The constant reminders may be part of the insurance: ‘we kept telling them, they chose to ingnore’. That type of thing.
That said, the spectaters could sit within 10 feet of the field at VCU, and I think there is a greater chance of stuff flying from a bot collision then in the pits. They still should be warn in the pits.
/me is still waiting on implantable robotic eyes.
Any teams want a summer project…
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