Teams to Watch

So now that the divisions are out and public, what teams should we be watching at Championships? What alliances could be formed with the potential of taking it all? What do you predict for Championships 2012? What underdog teams might do well?

I predict Archimedes will be a bloodbath for division champions. The Hawaiian Kids 359 put up a solid performance at Lone Star, but were almost upset by the Cats from Atlanta 2415 in an amazing Semifinal match. Alas, there is also the number one ranked offensive robot in the world, and with 3 World Champion titles, they’re itching to match Beatty for their 4th. The HOT Team 67 will be on fire when they line up to take shots. But, all three robots will have to band together if they want to even put a dent in the Canadian Powerhouse alliance of 2056 and 1114.

Einsteins finals will include at least one of the following teams from Arch: 2056, 1114, 67. That division is favored.
Galileo will see close competition but in the long run will be the underdog division.
Curie looks very strong but I cant help but believe the curse will persist.
I cant say too much about Newton, but I dont expect to see them make finals on Einstein.

Considering the spread of powerhouse team across the four fields, I feel that predicting an Einstein champion is going to be really difficult; there is at least three powerhouse teams on each division.

Some examples include…
Archimedes: 67, 1114, 2056
Newton: 111, 118, 469, 1717
Galileo: 16, 25, 148, 399
Curie: 233, 254, 341

…and they are only a few of many others! Whatever alliances come onto Einstein will be incredible. I will DEFINITELY be watching the Einstein matches.

I could see the main 2 teams from each field going to Einstein being:Archi-67/2056, Curie-233/341, Galileo-16/25, Newton-469/1717.

Oooo, predictions!

I’ve never posted predictions on Chief Delphi before but here goes:

Archi: 67/2056
Curie: 341/1986 (due to triple balance over 987/254)
Galileo: 25/148
Newton: 1717/469

Einstein: 1717/469

Guessing the third robot is way too hard, so I’m not going to bother doing that.

Teams to watch: 16, 25, 67, 341, 469, 987, 1114, 1717, 2056. That’s who I was watch if I wasn’t affiliated with any team and wanted to watch some good robots do their things.

Are you joking? 469 and 1717 are the two strongest shooters in FIRST (based on Teleop OPR and most division wins), and are both on Newton. That said, I don’t know how good of an alliance they make together. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them battling for Newton Champions. Newton has a deeper field than the other divisions (higher avg OPR) so the third robot on the alliance should be a bit better. When you’ve got the number one and two robots battling the three and four, there isn’t much variance. But effect of that third robot could be everything on Einstein.

Here are my predictions for the Championship. I have decided to do alliance selections this year!
**Archimedes: **

  1. 1114 2056 2557 W
  2. 67 973 2815 F
  3. 195 359 190 SF
  4. 2826 2415 1816 SF
  5. 126 234 1902 QF
  6. 3747 1676 2046 QF
  7. 1592 1218 1868 QF
  8. 716 781 1261 QF
    Curie:
  9. 987 341 244 W
  10. 624 233 1678 F
  11. 694 254 58 SF
  12. 1477 971 3929 SF
  13. 1986 604 51 QF
  14. 3205 461 3951 QF
  15. 525 78 1511 QF
  16. 3098 27 85 QF
    Galileo:
  17. 2337 25 103 F
  18. 180 48 1038 W
  19. 33 148 1212 SF
  20. 16 399 1515 QF
  21. 1718 2054 1323 SF
  22. 1732 1538 2016 QF
  23. 573 125 1918 QF
  24. 237 1714 2377 QF
    Newton:
  25. 1717 469 2067 W
  26. 330 118 3255 F
  27. 111 610 3230 SF
  28. 222 365 2200 QF
  29. 548 2122 340 SF
  30. 181 1023 329 QF
  31. 1519 842 175 QF
  32. 1126 191 45 QF
    Einstein:
    Archimedes: 1114 2056 2557 F
    Curie: 987 341 244 SF
    Galileo: 180 48 1038 SF
    Newton: 1717 469 2067 W

Let me know what you guys think.

Sounds like fun, but Titanium is over in Curie.

I see one problem. 1 and 4 cannot play against each other in the finals because they’ve already played against each other in the semis.

The fight for the Number 1 seed in Archimedes is going to be huge in deciding who will represent that field on Einstein. Now the question is how political the coopertition bridge will get on that field.

Team 1986 is in Curie. :slight_smile:

My bad. I thought I got all the match-ups correct. I guess I should go back and look at the manual for tournament rules.:o

I see another: 2815 getting picked before the last pick of the draft?! That hasn’t happened since Palmetto 2010! :stuck_out_tongue:

I think CalTran has the gist though–while the exact combination is impossible to determine, I think most of those teams will find themselves as dancing partners. (And we certainly hope to make the dance ourselves. :))

This has an air of Looking Forward to it…

Naah, LF doesn’t bold their “ands” between teams

It will be interesting to see what happens in the dome. There are some high-powered teams that have been relying on vision up to now, and doing that in the semi-translucent dome with changing lighting may be… challenging.

In addition, the idea that 100, or even 50 teams can get out and tune their cameras at both ends of the field in 45 minutes should result in a very interesting situation. I hope FIRST realizes what they’ve done there. Each team will get what… 3 minutes per side of the field? Not including moving from one side to the other?

I’m calling Newton being the champions (with 469, 1717, and 330 (I think 330 will be feeding and playing D, though, but another feeder/defender could work)), and Archimedes will be finalists (I see 67, 2056, and another Canadian team).

Though the bond between 1114 and 2056 is well documented and dominant through their careers, the fact remains that both of them are long bots. As we have seen, most dramatically by 148 at the Alamo, those 40 points can be the deciding factor in many cases. I believe that if either of the Canadian Powerhouses rank first they will choose Team 67 for an easier and more consistent triple balance. If 67 manages to grab the top spot, I believe they will ally with the better key shooter, Simbotics, to mitigate the risk of fender-bender defense. If HOT and Simbotics team up its hard to imagine an alliance to top that!
If anyone can, I presume it would be a 987 and 341 led alliance from Curie. :rolleyes:
Just my 2 Canadian Cents :smiley:

Team 1325 would like to luck to all teams, we will be cheering you all on! :slight_smile:

Archimedes:

  1. 67, 2056, 245 - W
  2. 1114, 1592, 4001 - F
  3. 1218, 2590, 190 - SF
  4. 2826, 359, 2022 - SF
  5. 1676, 1504, 781 - QF
  6. 973, 1261, 1902 - QF
  7. 1756, 195, 126 - QF
  8. 234, 1311, 1403 - QF

Curie:

  1. 341, 233, 830 - F
  2. 987, 1986, 244 - W
  3. 1477, 254, 1678 - SF
  4. 971, 624, 51 - QF
  5. 525, 1501, 1319 - SF
  6. 3098, 78, 2180 - QF
  7. 1507, 2474, 3929 - QF
  8. 1985, 27, 85 - QF

Galileo:

  1. 16, 25, 1583 - F
  2. 48, 180, 1038 - W
  3. 2337, 801, 3322 - SF
  4. 33, 148, 1305 - SF
  5. 1323, 2054, 125 - QF
  6. 1718, 1732, 2169 - QF
  7. 573, 399, 2016 - QF
  8. 1714, 1918, 772 - QF

Newton:

  1. 469, 1717, 86 - W
  2. 548, 111, 45 - SF
  3. 330, 118, 11 - F
  4. 1023, 610, 2122 - QF
  5. 222, 365, 816 - SF
  6. 488, 1662, 375 - QF
  7. 1126, 4294, 175 - QF
  8. 340, 79, 107 - QF

Einstein:

Arch vs Curie - Arch
Galileo vs Newton - Newton

Arch vs Newton - Arch