Iām amazed to hear you guys talk about this like itās so easy.
You think animating is hard? You should try roboting! No offense to any of you animators, but building a robot is really hard and it gets brushed off quite often.
First the technokats animation was done quite well. I thought that it would have been a little bit better if you showed a couple more robot partsā¦but ohhh well. Good luck at the regionals.
*Originally posted by GilaHumanPlayer *
**You think animating is hard? You should try roboting! No offense to any of you animators, but building a robot is really hard and it gets brushed off quite often. **
Rofl!!!
You crack me up. Maybe what you need to understand is that a lot of teams (including mine) do not have engineers or professionals to help us. Two years ago I taught myself 3ds max with a Pentium II 400 mgz computer. From there I was able to raise my own team of what was 14 people (before others were needed for the robot) lets see assembly teams do that!
Trust me, I know how to do manufacturing, and I know 3d modeling programs. i have machined parts for our robot before, and I have seen programs and I know that it is not easy, we all put tons of work in. However you guys that build robots get most of the credit as we can see with the awards. But look at how many hours animators put in compared to people working on the robot! I was at the build every day working basically every hour that I was there, I took it home and worked on it at 4 am and I busted my tail off.
Maybe you should try to animate before you go shooting off about how building a robot is so much harder. Oh, and if you canāt tell, I took a lot of offense to that comment.
Maybe what you need to understand is that a lot of teams (including mine) do not have engineers or professionals to help us. Two years ago I taught myself 3ds max with a Pentium II 400 mgz computer. From there I was able to raise my own team of what was 14 people (before others were needed for the robot) lets see assembly teams do that!
Hate to burst your bubble but our team is comprised of 13 students ranging in ages from 11-14. As we are a rookie team none of them had ever done any work with robots or animations before.
We have no engineers, and only 2 College Freshman with a total of six years of robot experience.
So I know exactly how much work it takes to put together an animation and a Robot without professional help.
So maybe next time you shouldnāt āgo shooting offā until you know the whole story.
Iām sorry, Iām done now.
then what was the point of your post??? wait there wasnāt one! especially to be put in an animators forum can i see your animation also???
Wowā¦ Just wow, that was probaly one of the best animations that I have seen all year, the plane looks exaclty like it should, I like how you took parts from the robot, changed them slightly and gave them much cooler names, Excellent job, See ya at Nats
*Originally posted by The wheelman *
**Wowā¦ Just wow, that was probaly one of the best animations that I have seen all year, the plane looks exaclty like it should, I like how you took parts from the robot, changed them slightly and gave them much cooler names, Excellent job, See ya at Nats **
Thanx man. Whatās really cool about the part names is that if you look them up, theyāre totally authentic. They are the actual part names/numbers!
Also, just to settle the little, āwhich is harder, animation or building a robot?ā What needs to be understood is that they are both very difficult and there is A TON of work that goes into both. I believe that they are pretty much equally difficult, just in different ways. btw, i am on both our animation and mechanical teams and do about an equal percentage of work on both, (many many hrs.) so Iām not commenting on anything that i do not have some experience with.
Lastly, remember what this thread is about: 45ās 2003 animation, not any other animation, robot, or views on which is harder etc. Please start a new thread if youād like to discuss any of those other things.
Thank you
I must say that after seeing the technokats animation againā¦I was doubly impressedā¦nice job guys ā¦really.
*Originally posted by Tyler Olds *
**then what was the point of your post??? wait there wasnāt one! especially to be put in an animators forum can i see your animation also??? **
amen. Whoever this gila human player isā¦shut it. Animation is the most disreguarded aspect of FIRST. While you make a robotā¦and you get credit on the field for itā¦what do animators get. Shafted in basically every way. We get no reckonitionā¦and no respectā¦and usually ZERO funding. Iām fine with that, Iāve chossen to accpet that but honestly, why donāt you try animation for a year. I will put down 100 dollars right now that you would reconsider your previous staement. I know that every animator on this forum will agree with me. Itās not that roboteering is hardā¦itās that posts like yours have proven why there is no respect for the animation aspect of first.
P.S. If you think Iām over reacting then try animation for a year. I will put 100 bucks down that youāll change your mind. So if you want to disagreeā¦
nice animation , pure genius! i like the realism and how you kept it really simple unlike us we tried cramming so much in to 30 sec it didnāt really come out the way our āmental pictureā had it. anywayz itās our first year we got a lot to learn iām just a 9th. also i like the rumble effect of the missle. But i think u should have showed more of the actual robot we didnāt even see it.
as 4 the which is harder: i think their both pretty hard but 4 me animation was a lot harder cuz their werent any one really working hard on it full time. of course if you take it in 2 perspective their both pretty hard and require the same skills:
- skill with the tools ur using
- hard work
- mountain dew or other keep awake beverage
FIRST: Teaching students today to build the weapons of tomorrow.
I like the satire.
i like your animation also but;
- i was a student animation judge and i though (and others agreed) that it didnāt have as much content as other animations.
-content meaning : first is ā¦
others had each of the main first themes and displayed in a creative way how these themes were used or how we benefited
butā¦ you had a very high creativity score to go with a high technical score
BEN
i was trying to play your animation but it wont play, i got sound but no movie. i tried it on 4 dif. viewers and on 3 dif. computers an xp aa 2000 and a 98 it just wont have video whats wrong?
*Originally posted by doomsdaytank *
**i was trying to play your animation but it wont play, i got sound but no movie. i tried it on 4 dif. viewers and on 3 dif. computers an xp aa 2000 and a 98 it just wont have video whats wrong? **
I have the same problem and it happened for team 108 as well at home and at the site but I can their animation at work. 
I have the same problem of downloading at schoo, this is because my school blocks downloads (to be able to play my windows media player needs to download a codec).
Im having the same problemā¦ive heard the animation is awesome and i want to see itā¦but all my media viewers wont let me look at it. somebody help!! i want to see itā¦
*Originally posted by TEAM_74 *
**I must say that after seeing the technokats animation againā¦I was doubly impressedā¦nice job guys ā¦really.amen. Whoever this gila human player isā¦shut it. Animation is the most disreguarded aspect of FIRST. While you make a robotā¦and you get credit on the field for itā¦what do animators get. Shafted in basically every way. We get no reckonitionā¦and no respectā¦and usually ZERO funding. Iām fine with that, Iāve chossen to accpet that but honestly, why donāt you try animation for a year. I will put down 100 dollars right now that you would reconsider your previous staement. I know that every animator on this forum will agree with me. Itās not that roboteering is hardā¦itās that posts like yours have proven why there is no respect for the animation aspect of first.
P.S. If you think Iām over reacting then try animation for a year. I will put 100 bucks down that youāll change your mind. So if you want to disagreeā¦ **
For Eric (GilaHumanPlayer), I will add another 500 dollars to that bet. I donāt want to start a war cause Eric is my friend but I donāt think he realizes how hard animation is just because the most I ever saw him do was animate a couple simple shapes in Max 2.5 over 3 years ago.
w00t 2.5!!! The good olā days
great animation btw, I think it is more what first is looking for, ones that show how first is applied in the real world and promote first.
*Originally posted by doomsdaytank *
**i was trying to play your animation but it wont play, i got sound but no movie. i tried it on 4 dif. viewers and on 3 dif. computers an xp aa 2000 and a 98 it just wont have video whats wrong? **
Goto www.divx.com and download the divx player, then you should be able to view it.
I took a lot of offense to the previous comment made by GilaHumanPlayerā¦ Animation is justā¦ rigorousā¦ 5+ hours everyday after school, entire weekends sitting at a computerā¦ it gets tiringā¦ but you work towards the finished product. Work on something before your criticize it, otherwise you just make yourself look like a fool.
As a past Technokats animator, I would like to say awesome work, and you better keep it up.