POINT CATEGORY POINTS POINTS
Win-Loss Record in Qualifying Rounds
Win 2
Tie 1
Final Alliance Captains After Picking
#1 Alliance Captain 16
#2 Alliance Captain 15
#3 Alliance Captain down to #8 Alliance Captain 14 down to 9
Draft Order by Acceptance
#1 Draft Pick (Accepted) 16
#2 Draft Pick (Accepted) 15
#3Draft Pick down to #16 Draft Pick 14 down to 1
Elimination Round Performance
Winning Alliance Teams:
Alliance Captain and First Pick 30
Second Pick 24
Finalist Alliance Teams:
Alliance Captain and First Pick 20
Second Pick 16
Semi Finalist Alliance Teams:
Alliance Captain and First Pick 10
Second Pick 8
Awards
Industrial Design 5
Quality 5
Excellence in Engineering 5
Innovation in Control 5
Creativity 5
Entrepreneurship 5
Team Spirit 2
Gracious Professionalism 2
Imagery 2
Highest Rookie Seed 2
Industrial Safety 2
Judges Award 2
Rookie Inspiration 2
I plan on updating this through the season using the teams’s first two regional performances. At this point there are 2 teams which have had 2 events (and they are marked with an *). Also many teams have not played.
Right now Chairmans, Engineering inspiration and rookie all-star are not point awards in the FIM ranking system. Those awards qualify you for the state championship to compete for those awards but don’t impact the rank as they are listed. When texas moves to the district system I am sure there will be many discussions of how this is handled but for now I am going to leave those awards out of the rankings.
The current method used for FiM is only 2 events count( although I am not clear how it is decided which 2 events). This is because under district systems each team is guaranteed 2 events, and while you can play more it would be unfair to buy your way into the state championship just by attending loads of events.
The real question is when Texas goes to districts how big will the state championship be.
You are welcome. I like data also. See you at Alamo.
The first 2 districts they attend. 3rd districts are just for practice. Any out-of-state regionals also do not count toward FiM rankings - although they could qualify a team for the Championship.
Under FiM, how many teams make it to the state championship through the ranking system? If a team qualifies for state with a regional chairman’s award, does their robot still compete, giving them the chance to qualify for St Louis through competing?
All district Chairman’s award winners do compete at the state championship with the robot. So they have more options of getting to St. Louis, via 1 of 3 Chairman’s spots, winning the state championship or qualifiying based on points. The top 64 teams in the state based on points compete at the state championship. So this year 64/207 teams compete, so about 30% of Michigan teams.
FiM has 64 teams qualify for the state tournament (out of 207 this year). MAR had 53 at MAR CMP last year (out of 99), and this year it says “at least 50” out of 109. Looks like Texas currently has 140 teams, so assuming a 50-60 team event it would be more selective than MAR but less selective than Michigan.
RCA automatically qualifies your robot to attend the State/Region CMP. EI and RAS were able to attend (sans robot) and set up a booth to compete for those awards.
Hah ! After seeing the California rankings, I started working on the same data,
Glad to see other people around Texas are thinking along similar lines.
I have a spreadsheet for this, but it still requires a bunch of manual data entry work. I did this while I was sitting on an airplane so time wasn’t the limiting factor, that being said I want to clean it up a bit before I would send it out.
I have no idea how the districts will be setup. I have heard rumblings with all sorts of possibilities including what states (or countries) get included and when the change will happen (next year or the following year or beyond).
I look forward to seeing you and your team at Alamo.
HA, had I known you were working on it I would have waited to do mine :-P. I think alot of people in the texas region are starting to think districts with all of the rumors floating around.
I imagine we’ll probably get Oklahoma, and arkansas included. I doubt Mexico because of the logistical implications. Theyll probably get their own regional once texas and the south moves to district, since they wont be able to come into the district events.
Since we’re talking about Texas Districts. First I know nothing official except I’m pretty sure we’re not going to districts next season.
2nd everyone that’s interested should look at what New England is putting together. http://www.nefirst.org/blog/. Their model solves a lot of the problems we would have in Texas with the FiM model. We still don’t know if FIRST is going to approve their proposal. It eliminates the requirement for two events before the district championship which would be very difficult on some of our teams from the south and from the west.
Also attached is a graphic that someone (I don’t know who) produced that has Texas as a region all by itself and it includes the eventual Super Regionals.
Before we go to a full District system I think we should work on getting a state championship after FRC Championships like Minnesota. http://www.mnfirstregional.org/offseason/mshsl I remember reading about this idea somewhere in the FIRSTinTexas strategic plan but I can’t find it now.
I believe Minnesota’s “State championship” is due to the fact that schools are required to have FRC teams in Minnesota now, and so it sort of acts as a UIL sport (without being one). We have the TRR which is pretty much the same thing though!
TRR is close but it’s still just a sign up and go type event. It also doesn’t have the title of being the “Texas State Championship” yet or being exclusive to Texas teams. My main idea with doing something like Minnesota is to get teams used to the point system and having to qualify for events.
