Qualification Information for the Texas UIL State Championship has been posted on their website.
http://firstintexas.org/uil/qualification/
Looks like round up will only have 10 spots for teams that have any students who aren’t enrolled in a UIL school. I’m interested to see how they go about choosing those teams.
Has anyone calculated the Texas rankings ?
I’m hoping someone will,but I’ll have time tomorrow to do it if it’s not done yet.
I think 118, 148, and 3310 have “perfect event scores” on average in texas (# 1seed, win playoffs). They both won WFFA so they edge us out there, and then when you go down the tiebreakers all the way to “highest match score” 118 beats out 148.
Please note two things. From the admin manual and the announcement, points are only awarded for Team awards, so WFFA and Deans List don’t add 5 points. From the FIRST in Texas announcement, note that the event scores are averaged. That means 148 isn’t quite “perfect” since they were not the 1 seed at the end of qualifications in Dallas.
For the record, thebluealliance API feature that calculates District Points for an event works for regionals too.
The API from TBA doesn’t seem to factor in Team Age per Admin Manual section 7.4.1.5.
For example, sending a request for Utah, you’ll see this in the middle of the output:
"frc5933": {
"alliance_points": 11,
"total": 53,
"award_points": 8,
"elim_points": 20,
"qual_points": 14
},
But they’re rookies and are supposed to get 10 points in their rookie year. I probably missed something obvious.
3481 is a diverse team with a good amount of non-UIL students (private school and home schooled) in addition to our Northside ISD UIL-eligible students.
I guess we’re NOT eligible for the potential UIL recognition because we’re a mixed-bag.
AND I guess we’re relegated to one of the ten “wait-list” openings.
Am I the only one who thinks this sucks?
A student is a student–period.
What we’re doing here in Texas competition robotics is creating a class-system of first-class teams and second-class teams.
HOW that’s better is beyond my ability to comprehend and either my brain is much smaller than the big-brains that put this together or maybe those who did this may be blinded by the supposed BIG team numbers growth this will supposedly spur, and that may happen, but excluding ANY Texas FIRST student from anything as if they’re second-class is NOT something we should be doing.
–Michael Blake
calculating total points is different from event points - every team’s event point calculation is identical, the rookie bonus is added on at the very end. Otherwise district calculations would give rookies the bonus twice, once for each event.
Here is what I came up with the data from thebluealliance, this is not an official document of any kind.
The team average was derived from the first 2 Texas events that the teams attended.
s1900ahon, team Age is added to overall score not per event.
I am unsure if teams at Texas events get 5 points for a Chairman’s/EI/RAS and then bonus points on top of that or just the bonus points. Also I don’t know if winning EI or Chairman’s twice gives double points, but I gave 2881 the extra points anyways.
Here is the list by the UIL rules, per the assumptions above. Note, this list doesn’t take into account tiebreakers or eligibility. Also I may have missed awards outside of Texas.
Rank Team Points
1 118 73.0
1 3310 73.0
3 148 72.0
4 4587 71.0
5 4063 64.0
6 1296 60.0
6 2468 60.0
8 5431 58.5
9 231 57.0
10 3005 56.5
11 1477 53.5
11 2848 53.5
13 5726 52.0
14 624 51.5
15 6171 50.0
16 57 46.0
16 3847 46.0
18 6133 45.5
19 5775 44.0
20 5572 43.0
21 2158 42.3
22 2881 42.0
22 5057 42.0
24 5829 39.0
25 4301 38.0
26 5417 37.5
27 6144 36.0
28 3679 35.0
28 5986 35.0
30 3481 33.5
30 3802 33.5
32 2583 32.0
33 2805 30.0
34 5892 29.0
35 5414 28.5
36 3366 28.0
37 2789 27.0
37 3743 27.0
39 3999 26.5
39 4639 26.5
41 3355 26.0
41 4192 26.0
41 4364 26.0
41 5411 26.0
45 418 25.5
46 4694 25.0
46 5242 25.0
48 2587 24.0
48 2882 24.0
48 3676 24.0
48 5981 24.0
48 6196 24.0
53 3735 23.3
54 6155 23.0
55 5754 22.0
55 6111 22.0
55 6126 22.0
55 6235 22.0
59 5427 21.0
59 5771 21.0
59 5866 21.0
59 5923 21.0
59 6172 21.0
64 5416 20.0
64 5639 20.0
64 6051 20.0
67 704 19.0
67 1745 19.0
67 5888 19.0
70 5894 18.0
71 647 17.0
71 5682 17.0
71 5739 17.0
71 5908 17.0
71 5960 17.0
76 457 16.0
76 1255 16.0
76 4076 16.0
76 6180 16.0
80 3741 15.0
81 2613 14.0
81 2969 14.0
81 3103 14.0
81 5503 14.0
81 5681 14.0
86 4332 13.0
86 5103 13.0
88 1642 12.0
88 2721 12.0
88 2950 12.0
88 3545 12.0
88 4295 12.0
88 4298 12.0
88 4610 12.0
88 4734 12.0
88 5052 12.0
97 3305 11.0
97 3345 11.0
97 3561 11.0
97 4155 11.0
97 5212 11.0
102 3335 10.5
102 4300 10.5
104 3029 10.0
104 3035 10.0
104 3240 10.0
104 5241 10.0
108 441 9.0
108 653 9.0
108 3043 9.0
108 3728 9.0
108 5070 9.0
108 5261 9.0
114 2582 8.0
114 3350 8.0
114 4219 8.0
114 4328 8.0
114 4570 8.0
114 5566 8.0
120 4641 7.5
121 2585 7.0
121 3282 7.0
121 3370 7.0
121 4696 7.0
125 1817 6.5
126 2897 6.0
126 3700 6.0
126 4378 6.0
126 4412 6.0
126 4799 6.0
126 4852 6.0
132 2966 5.0
132 3997 5.0
132 4717 5.0
132 5047 5.0
136 3037 4.0
136 3417 4.0
136 3834 4.0
136 4206 4.0
140 4597 3.0
You can remove 3481 from the listing as per…
“32 UIL eligible FIRST Robotics Competition teams will qualify based on their performance at all their FIRST Regional competitions in Texas (See Qualification section below). An additional 10 spots will be reserved and allocated by the event planning committee. In total, 42 FIRST Robotics Competition teams will compete at this event.”
Since we’re NOT “UIL eligible” because of our mixed-bag of public-private-home school students we can only hope and pray we get one of those coveted 10 spots reserved for the newly created structure of second-class student teams.
–Michael Blake
I think it would be reasonable for us to collect the list of teams who have any non-UIL students on them.
I know 3847, 3481, 5829, & 3103 all have non-UIL students, which other teams fall into this category?
Add 3997 Screaming Chickens here in San Antonio.
–Michael Blake
Looking at the Texas District Rankings really highlights why Texas Districts need to happen.
Great teams like 624 and 2158 likely would qualify for championship if the district model was in place.
AGREED, Andrew… DISTRICT MODEL next year!!
Let’s just get there for crying out loud… pick a date and execute it.
And let’s move away from this tiered eligibility list for TRR or anything FIRST competition robotics related that involves exclusion of private and home school students–it’s just NOT right.
–Michael Blake
I think the real problem is that for the last 5-6 years, TRR has served as the “state championship” for Texas. Its the flagship of Texas offseason. And rather than create another event for UIL as they probably should have, they just decided to take over TRR and use its recognition and systems to serve as the “UIL state championship”. They’re sort of corrupting something that was special to many Texas Teams.
But they took it a step further with allowing non UIL teams into the UIL event. Now you’ve created tension where good non-UIL teams might not get in. It seems they want to have their cake and eat it too with not recognizing non-UIL teams, but also wanting them to come play.
I don’t think either its a huge deal though. As long as TRR selects its “wait list slots” SOLEY based on the next teams in district ranking, the teams that will be at the event are the same regardless of whether or not they are UIL. If TRR were not to follow that protocol is when people would start being justified in being upset.
I think the recognition of UIL teams that may not have won TRR as “State champs” will be the most awkward thing ever, if/when it happens.
Assuming there aren’t more than 10 teams in the top 42 that have non-UIL students on their teams. I’m hopeful that this is case and no one who deserves a spot gets left out.
Chairman’s, Engineering Inspiration and Rookie All Star are added for an event no matter location. All other team awards are added for only Texas Events in the event score.
UIL Championships will still be in place after Districts are implemented. UIL wants to name a Texas State Champion based on UIL designated teams.
It will be interesting to see if UIL Championships is in conjunction going forward after this year. I believe a contest in May like Minnesota, Arizona and Misourri. was discussed when the conversation started about a UIL Championship
Yeah, but Norman, it will get really awkward when teams like 3481 Bronc Botz (mixed-bag) and 3997 Screaming Chickens (Boy Scouts) and others get excluded from this May State Championship.
It creates a second-class tier IMO and I know a lot of others, including those with full-UIL eligible teams, agree with me on this because they’ve told me directly.
–Michael Blake
THAT will be something to witness IF it happens…
–Michael Blake