Thanks GDC for NO Coin-Flip!

FIRST General Forum
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A few Robowranglers are watching the Finals at MSC. For those that don’t know, there have now been TWO tie matches where all the tie-breakers were dead even.

We’re about to see our FIFTH match in the series.

This is obviously inconvenient from an event planning and management standpoint, but is AMAZING from a “sport and spectacle” standpoint.

Thank you to the GDC for not making the “7th level tie-breaker” a random coin-flip!
Let’s keep em playing all night, until someone comes out on top!

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Cheers,
JVN

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Destination Deep Space but it’s a 24-hour loop of the same match.

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The repetition just adds to the mood.

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TBA only has 4 matches listed now. Did the fifth match count as a replay of F1-4?

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it appears to have, yes

apparently they don’t plan for this?

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If you look at the score breakdown, at least on mobile, it still shows the tied point values too. It’s like someone overrode the final score.

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FRC API appears to have recorded Finals match 5 (Listed on the overlay as “Overtime 1” - same as match 4) as a replay.

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Is it certain that this isn’t just a really faulty field?

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I’ll get the 5th match back in by tomorrow.

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They could add in a possible 4-6 more tiebreak options.
Cargo/panels scored in sandstorm (if it’s tracked which I doubt)
Cargo scored in cargo ship
Cargo scored in rocket
Panels scored in cargo ship
Panels scored in rocket.

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Watch that be tied.

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At the LA Regional this year, the finals went to 5 matches, with one of those due to a field fault. A field fault will have the results overwrite the previous match, leaving the total number of finals matches at LA to be 4. Overtime will have all the match results posted.

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I don’t think that it was in either of the tied matches, I know that one match one side had 8 cargo in cargo ship and the other side had 7.

The last tiebreakers could be most cargo scored in one rocket and most panels scored in one rocket.

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By the rules, Overtime true tie is a replay. Replays mean the original match doesn’t count/didn’t happen, so it gets overwritten.

Weird that FIRST does it this way, and I’d like to see it change.

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Still would be entertaining if everything got tied. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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This is uncharted territory for FIRST, we contacted the before posting the results in case it calculated the winner wrong. But the final match was technically a replay of overtime.

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If you did have tiebreaker 7-12 as
7. Most cargo scored in cargo ship.
8. Most panels scored in cargo ship.
9. Most cargo scored in rockets.
10. Most panels scored in rockets.
11. Most cargo scored in one rocket.
12. Most panels scored in one rocket.

If it was still a tie after 12 tiebreak criteria then we all deserve a replay.

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All the tiebreaker rules are horrid. If its a tie, it’s a tie. Go Play another match.

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Not quite.. Iowa 2017, semifinals 2 went to 6 matches because the two alliances were so evenly matched. It felt like the event that would never end! Granted, that wasn’t this year, but I doubt that part of the FMS has changed much since then.

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TBA should show all 5 matches now.

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