Posted by Tony K.
Student on team #292, PantherTech, from Western High School and DaimlerChrysler.
Posted on 1/11/2000 5:26 PM MST
Anyone with a manual, I encourage you to look at rules DQ11 and DA7. Directly from the manual, this rule says ‘…a robot may launch balls only toward its own alliance station…’ Also mentioned is a disqualification or disabling of the alliance. Does this mean that robots can only launch the balls when they’re facing you? In other words, if it’s on your side of the goal, you can’t launch balls into the goal… you’d have to cross to the other side! This seems illogical to me. Any ideas? I hope they clarify this in an update.
Thanks,
Tony
P.S. - Thanks Mark from the TechnoKats for noticing this.
Posted by colleen. [PICTURE: SAME | NEW | HELP]
Other on team #246, a FIRST-aholic, from John D. O’Byrant High School/Boston Latin Academy/Madison HS and NSTAR/Boston University/Wentworth Institute of Technology/MassPEP.
Posted on 1/11/2000 5:39 PM MST
In Reply to: That darned Rule DQ11 posted by Tony K on 1/11/2000 5:26 PM MST:
Hmm… i could have sworn at the kick-off they said you could launch over the station AND into your goal… obviously, just not at the other alliance’s station…
anyone ask for clarification?
Posted by Lora Knepper.
Student on team #69, HYPER, from Quincy Public Schools and The Gillette Company.
Posted on 1/11/2000 6:58 PM MST
In Reply to: hmm? posted by colleen on 1/11/2000 5:39 PM MST:
I have to thank you for bringing this up, I hadn’t noticed it! I think we should contact FIRST on this, because it does seem illogical. I could see not firing balls into the audiance, or toward the judges, but tying to score in your goal from your side of the field would seem to be OK in my mind. Any comments?
Lora Knepper
Team 69 (HYPER)
Posted by Jon.
Engineer on team #190, Gompei, from Mass Academy of Math and Science and Worcester Polytechnic Institute.
Posted on 1/11/2000 7:25 PM MST
In Reply to: Re: hmm? posted by Lora Knepper on 1/11/2000 6:58 PM MST:
: I have to thank you for bringing this up, I hadn’t noticed it! I think we should contact FIRST on this, because it does seem illogical. I could see not firing balls into the audiance, or toward the judges, but tying to score in your goal from your side of the field would seem to be OK in my mind. Any comments?
: Lora Knepper
: Team 69 (HYPER)
Ear@first said…
>>What it means, but does not accurately state, is that your robot is allowed to launch balls over the polycarbonate shield into your own alliance station, but not into the opposing alliance’s station.
Posted by Jerry Eckert.
Engineer from Looking for a team in Raleigh, NC sponsored by .
Posted on 1/11/2000 7:29 PM MST
In Reply to: That darned Rule DQ11 posted by Tony K on 1/11/2000 5:26 PM MST:
: Anyone with a manual, I encourage you to look at rules DQ11 and DA7. Directly from the manual, this rule says ‘…a robot may launch balls only toward its own alliance station…’ Also mentioned is a disqualification or disabling of the alliance. Does this mean that robots can only launch the balls when they’re facing you? In other words, if it’s on your side of the goal, you can’t launch balls into the goal… you’d have to cross to the other side! This seems illogical to me. Any ideas?
In previous competitions there were similar rules to prohibit teams from launching objects at an opponent’s team station. I’m almost positive that’s the intent of these rules, although they are not clearly worded. Under the old rules you could launch a ball away from your own station towards the goal and would be subject to DA/DQ only if the ball went well past the goal and landed in the vicinity of the opponent’s players.
On the other hand, given the geometry of the goal this year I’m not sure how effective a robot attempting to launch balls at the goal will be. The target is relatively small.
:I hope they clarify this in an update.
They won’t unless someone requests them to do so. Send E-mail to ear@usfirst.org.
: Tony
: P.S. - Thanks Mark from the TechnoKats for noticing this.
Posted by Tony K.
Student on team #292, PantherTech, from Western High School and DaimlerChrysler.
Posted on 1/12/2000 5:09 PM MST
In Reply to: That darned Rule DQ11 posted by Tony K on 1/11/2000 5:26 PM MST:
Team Update 1 is out! Check it out at
http://www.usfirst.org/2000comp/TeamUpdates/