dude…Mevoot Eron were great…
and if i remember the way things went(and i do) , they were the team ranked 2nd after us(1574)…and i dont recall and tech problems they had…
the competition was set like this:
12 practice rounds
12 qualifying rounds
the best 2 ranked teams choose their alliances for the final rounds(first alliance to win 2 rounds wins medals)
it was a full FIRST field.
we hope next year it will expand to two israeli regionals and to have teams from Egypt,Jordan, and Palastine included in these regionals.
highest ranked team(1574) and rookie all-star(1577) are going to participate in the 2005 Championship.
Good to see that FIRST is going global. It’ll do wonders for the enginerring community.
You and Leav said it was a “full FIRST field”. Does this mean you went out with 3 bots on each alliance? Or did you do 2?
As for the 12 practice and 12 qual rounds … wait until you get to Atlanta, with 100 practice rounds, and about 125 qual rounds :eek:
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I would like the thank all you guys for your compliments.
I’m the driver for team 1657, HaMosad, Mevoot - Eron.
yesterdays loss was really disappointing. we had a winning robot not less capable then MisCar’s but we still lost. our great team managed to fix all the mechanical problems prior to the finals, but still we lost.
as a driver, i fell that i pretty much did the same as in other matches that we were more lucky in. and maybe that’s it…luck. although i think that we can say that “luck” is also about a combination of alliance members and strategy. but then again, i was focused only in my robot for these short 2 and a half minutes so i cant really say what’s the cause…
but still, seeing your own creation works is amazing. we built our robot completly by ourselvs. the only help we got what so ever was Yona, a Lumenis worker that dropped by every now and then and gave some advices about electronics. the entire thinking fabrication process was done by the amazing skills of my fellow team members, working days without any sleep (my rercord was 16 hours :mad: )
For me, a thing that was really upsetting was also the fact that we didn’t got the “Good sportsmanship award” (or some other award that focuses on off the field behaviour…sorry, too many award names for me to remember :yikes:))
our team arrived in 6:30 am to volunteer and help constructing the competition’s arena. we built every tetra, loaded each robot crate, vacuumed the carpets and lined the Plexiglas boards. our team brought hundreds of pounds of equipment. from a vacuum cleaner to an air compressor, a disk saw and a grinding wheel. other teams were more then welcomed to use our equipment. there were entire teams that wouldn’t had the ability to make their robots functional to the match without us and our equipment! also, prior to the competition, we built the entire arm-tip to one of the teams that wouldn’t make it in time!.
I’m not saying we did all that and expected some kind of reward. heck, i wasn’t even aware of that kind of award until the moment that Blair (the amazing MC) announced it, and all of my team-members eyes gleamed, coz we knew we deserve it. but nonetheless, we were the ones to stay and clean the arena well after everybody else left.
But as being this involved in the making of the event and not just participating in it, i had to pleasure of meeting and making friends with some great staff people and volunteers from First. people like Adam, Michell, Shy-El and Blair (again…the amazing MC) and many more. i wasn’t just concerned about my teams performance, but i can say i was concerned about the entire event’s success. now i can wear my First’s “CREW” t-shirt with pride!
too bad it’s my one and only First competition. being 18 i gotta join the army next year.
anyway, i would like to wish MisCar and Steampunk all the luck they need.
and i wish they would represent my country well. im here crossing my fingers for you. i know they are some good guys and they are gonna have fun in Atlanta. and also, thanks for saving me the long flight
Uh-oh… looks like you have caught that dangerous FIRST bug that’s been going around… of course, you probably couldn’t help it, it’s highly contagious… and we don’t mind at all if you pass it on!
I’m looking forward to seeing both teams in Atlanta!
Heidi
we hope next year it will expand to two israeli regionals and to have teams from Egypt, Jordan, and Palastine included in these regionals.
That is great news. Good luck with all your efforts
Please don’t take this as an insult … as many rookie teams don’t fully understand how the awards are given (which is ok … the fact they even made it to the competition is more than anyone can expect of a rookie team). You probally saw some people in blue shirts with the FIRST logo. Those are the judges, they decide who gets the awards. During the competition, the judges should of came to your pit and talked to several kids from your team. When this happens, you need to sell yourself to the judges. Point out certain features on your robot that make it unique, steps taken to build it, your teams outreach to the community, marketing, ect. This is the time to tell them about all your hardwork and efforts to make the competition better. Tell them about all the tools you brought, tell them about how your team showed up to assemble the field. Let them get close to your robot, let them touch parts, tell build season stores … The more you tell the judge, the better your chances at winning something. Never EVER ignore a judge, and never make them try to pull the words out of you. Don’t be afraid to talk to them either, theyre just as normal as you and me. Make sure your team knows to conduct themselves accordingly when around judges too (no horseplay, everyone has safety glasses, no cussing – that’s a big one).
As for the sportsmanship award … Heres what FIRST says about it:
9.1.3.8 Johnson & Johnson - Sportsmanship
This award celebrates outstanding sportsmanship and continuous gracious professionalism in the heat of competition, both on and off the playing field.
For example, after your team is defeated (or even if you win) go up to the other alliance and shake their hands and say “good match” or something to that effect. FIRST isn’t about robots, its about partnerships, team work, helping others, and promoting the engineering community. The robot is just a bonus. Between the time you ship the robot, and when you go to competition … check out the awards you can win. Talk to your teammates about the awards you should try to get, and then figure out a plan on how to make your team look the best for this/these award(s). Winning awards (except highest rookie seed, rookie imagery, and rookie allstar) is a skill that is perfected over the years.
Never expect to win an award, you’ll just be disappointed if you don’t get it. It’s always fun to listen to the announcer read off the award and about the team who got it, while you sit there thinking if it was your team or not. There is one thing you can be assured … the teams who get the awards definitely deserve them. But like robots, FIRST isn’t about awards. Technically, everyone who participates gets an award – the experience they received from participating – there isn’t a single thing on this planet that can compare to that.
It’s too bad you cant stick around to help the team next year. I was a senior in our rookie year, and had a blast. I wished we started the program when I was a freshman. I was glad the team welcomed me back to help again this year, as well as go to the competitions with them. College students with FIRST experience are extremely respected as far as the team is concerned. They know what works, what to do, as well as what not to do. If your team has any former FIRST people on it, be sure to thank them for giving up their time to help the team, the same thing goes for any adults or mentors. Without them, you probally wouldn’t know that FIRST is. When you get out of the army, be sure to stop by your old highschool and see how the team is doing. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Congratulations to all the Israel teams. You guys are the future of FIRST, spreading the program to another side of the planet. Any Israeli teams Atlanta, feel free to stop by Team 1388’s pits for anything you might need. Even if we cant help you, we’ll get you guided in the right direction. Good luck and we’ll see you there!
Name’s Luft, Hamosad’s captain. My time is short for this reply, as I have to be back in school soon. I’d like to congrat Misgav (MisCar) and Steampunk for their win. I was happy to hear that Steampunk won the Rookie Allstar as I was to make it to the tournoment rounds. Those guys really deserved this award.
We have photos and thanks to be posted soon.
yasher koach (probably spelled that wrong) on your win team 1574, hopefully we will be able to see you guys in Atlanta if we qualify. We’re also trying to raise enough money so that next year we can be the first American team to compete in the Israeli regionals. but i have a strange feeling we wont be able to raise enough.
Miss Jenny hit the nail on the head…Team007 is extremely excited to meet Team 1577 in Atlanta!
Team007 gives a huge congratulations to Teams 1574 and 1577! Congratulations, and we will hopefully be able to meet you all in Atlanta!
Thank you all for the congrats and good words.
I’m sure we are as excited as you are to meet you in Atlanta.
But there are some problems to raise money for the trip… At this moment
there is not enough money so the teams could come to US.
I hope that in the end everything will get properly and the 2 Israeli teams
will arrive in Atlanta for the championship.
Yuval
team #1574
So when Blair (the MC) was at FLR, he asked us for a fuzzy red hat/wig because it would be something easy to pack, easy to get through security… and weird.
Did he really wear the Code Red Robotics wig while at the Israeli Regional?
no…but when he announced the teams of the final rounds he went up to the top of the center goal tetra…and he wasn’t wearing safty glasses :ahh:
As I promised, pictures! We have some video clip we took, maybe I’ll upload them too. I don’t know how I can add some text about the pictures… you’ll manage, I hope:
0172 - Hershko, ours’ and team 1577’s teacher and the manager of FIRST israel pushes one of the more decorated crate on tuesday morning.
0178 - Team 1657 (that’s us!) crate, with Bhangar the Rat, our logo.
0179 - Team 1577 (Steampunk) crate.
0187 - Assembling the field on tuesday morning, Team 1657.
0190 - Efi, our driver. The sign around his neck says “New Driver”.
More picture!
0202 - Field assembled, from the right: Elisha, Mishel, Davidovich, Blurry stain which is me, Shir, our programmer.
0204 - Ready for the competition!
0208 - Team, identify thy robot!
0210 - You can read the number, no?
0212 - Shevach Mofet’s robot. Can’t remember the team number.
I have class now, and alot more pics to upload.
Heh … great pictures. Now you guys just need some team shirts
We had team shirts at the competition, came fresh from the printer.
More robots:
0213 - Team 1690 robot, and a real good one, too.
0214 - Team 1573, another excellent competitor.
0215 - The winner, team 1574.
0216 - 1580’s cool robot.
0219 - This team is from Danziger high school, 1582.
this robot is ours… team 1577 “Steampunk”
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3118
You can find video from the event on our site under the videos section:
http://www.misgav.galil.k12.il/first/index2.htm
(MISCAR ON TV)
This is an interview with Dean Kaiman, some of that is in Hebrew, sorry
for that.
Yuval
Misgav High School, Israel