The Best Team(s) To Never Win An Event (2024 Edition)

Welcome back, for those unaware I made this thread, in 2012 and followed it up with this thread in 2016, and again in 2019. So much has happened in the 12 years since I posted the first of these threads, Championships were split and remerged, districts went from being the minority of teams to basically equal to regionals, an explosion of teams in Australia, Brazil and especially Türkiye, and of course a global pandemic (most of these just since said pandemic). I decided to revive this thread since we are about to enter a new era of qualification with the Regional Points model and we now are entering the 4th year of a post pandemic FRC world.

Here are the rules for those who haven’t contributed before as well as those who need reminding:

  1. You must compete with the team fairly regularly
  2. The team must have competed in 3 straight FRC seasons aka since 2022
  3. Teams must already be signed up to compete in the 2025 season
  4. Teams can not have won any official event
  5. An official event is one that provides a FIRST Blue Banner (Regional, Distict, District Championship, Division, Subdivision, and Championship)
  6. They can not be your team or teams.

While not a requirement I also would like everyone to provide why they think these teams are good enough to win, and what has kept them from getting the coveted Blue Banner.
Bad Luck? Mechanical Inconsistencies? Scouting Issues?

So from Florida I am going to once again bring up 4065 The Nerds of Prey and 5557 BB-R8ERS.

4065 really decided they were going to increase their competitive level way back in 2019 offseason where they built a whole new robot and would go on to win the Roboticon Offseason. They had a very pretty robot ready to go in 2020 but alas pandemic. There robots since the pandemic have been well made and improved year over year including making smart design tradeoffs when appropriate. Being a consistent alliance captain or first pick who makes it to the 3rd/4th place match they are a team who will benefit from the change to qualification even if they don’t improve. As to why they don’t have a banner yet it honestly comes down to event selection luck and robot readiness. Had they selected other events since the pandemic I think they might have been able to win them, but the more pressing issue is their robot just seems to not be well practiced at their initial event. This year could be their year especially if they get some practice reps in before Tallahassee

5557 is very similar but also different from 4065. They were also not super competitive until offseason 2022 where they made major improvements to their robot and would make finalist at Roboticon. In 2023 they hade a beautiful robot but may have been more than they could handle complexity wise because they never were able to get it to consistently score higher than the hybrid nodes, but they rode said limitation to captaining the finalist alliance at Tallahassee. 2024 was a true breakout year for them and I was very said to see them not make champs, the robot and team more than deserved it and any other year they likely would have made it. 5557 has mechanical and driver prep down, however they need a bit better scouting and programming to get them over the hump to compete with the best in Florida.

Honorable Mentions:
7431 (Best robot in their post pandemic era, needs to get their robot done quicker and practice with it more)
8841 (Improving year over year and finally ditched mecanum which was holding them back)

For anyone looking for a similar thread but about teams who haven’t won an event in a while that thread is here

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In Iowa, it seems like Wildcard Robotics - Team 4646 (History) - The Blue Alliance is definitely on the verge of Winning instead of being Finalist.

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In Ontario, the teams that come to mind that i’m not a part of include 9098 The Firehawks, 8789 The Lost 10mm Sockets. Team 3739 is also up there but I used to be involved with that team, not sure if that makes me biased. I predict 9098 wins their first event this season, they have been cooking ever since they competed at the STEMley Cup Championship with their mentor team 4039’s robot

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This is actually pretty hard, there are a bunch of amazing teams that havent had any wins lately but have one win as a second pick or something from 5-10 years ago before any current members were on the team.
That being said, there are a few good 3+ year old Socal/competing in Socal teams that don’t have an event win (and I may be missing one)
1148 Harvard Westlake went crazy this year, rank 1 finalists at Aerospace Valley, and consistent high rank both this year and last (they technically only went to an offseason in 2022, but they also competed continuously from 2003 to 2016 with no banners, so i’ll count them despite that technicality.)
3882 Lunas have been one of the better Hawaiian teams for a while, and have multiple regional finalist titles to their name, but have never managed to close it out all the way.

Honorable mentions to 4079 Quantum Leap and 8119 Tigerbotics who have both been on upswings lately (both have a regional finals to their name, and 4079 has 2 Beach Blitz wins and 2 finals appearances over the years)

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It surprises me to no end 8033 qualifies for this but I’m hoping to see that change soon

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1153 the Timberwolves, and they consistently get to champs. And they’ve never won IMPACT. Probably one of the best teams without any blue banners.

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For Texas:

2582 PantherBots
4639 RoboSpartans
324 Chips

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3173 IgKnighters from NY; they have been finalists and in 3rd place for the past 3 years, plus made the Statbotics top 100 teams this year despite not qualifying for worlds with their phenomenal robots. Their only blue banners come from Woodie Flowers and from the skills challenge, and they are a strong and reliable team that has tough competition in their region.

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Aw man don’t remind me T-T

Thankfully the district system exists in NE, but yeah we take the award for most silvers without a gold. Looking to pass that on to another team this year

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as long as you don’t transfer it to us, we’ve finalisted thrice. A lot more until we reach your level.

Not 100% sure if they haven’t won an event, but MECO definitely turned things up this year in Florida with very solid swerve, and had some awesome showings that got plagues by consistency.

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IDK, but they did help a lot in this event win :slight_smile:

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5736 - Constantly building some competitive robots, and haven’t crossed the line.
Having consistently good robots, and making it into the playoffs pretty far each time, with some narrow losses.
They have also finished 17th, 11th, and 14th in NY for EPA in the last 3 years.

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MECO is a solid shout, they definitely improved a lot considering this was only their 3rd full season as a team.

If they can keep up the improvements and work out the consistency issues you highlighted I think they will have a win sooner rather than later.

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In ONT, I would include Team 5032: Falcons from Mississauga. Their 2022 season was the one that caught my attention. I’m a fan of their Rapid React robot. Since then, they have been building amazing robots and I’m glad to see them continue to improving.

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since the last post was made: 3 straight finalist at the district event level during 2020 and 2022, 5 total finalists and a lower bracket finals out of 7 district events :frowning:

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Team 5557 down in Florida – they’ve had some pretty strong seasons as of late, but haven’t been able to convert to a event win. Hopefully they’ll beat their streak of bad luck and pull through this year.

In South Carolina the answer is pretty clear cut as there are 2 teams that have come close but not quite made it all the way to a gold.

6366 - RAM Rodz Robotics
or
4533 - Phoenix

Multiple Silver Medals, Superlative Awards

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I’m going to echo @Omuzder here, 3739 is a great example. They got oh so close to winning their first this year, but they met 2056 in the Science field finals. Before that, they ran into the Cybercavs and the Alpha Dogs at 2023 DCMP. They’ve been good in recent years and it should run no surprise to anyone should they win their first banner this year.

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your team 3543 deserves a win too! Multiple finals appearances across the years and a solid robot build despite an atypical drivetrain in 2024. I can’t wait to see you bring it home next time!

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