With Regionals coming up what strategies do you believe are going to be the most dominant? From the UTC footage and Quincy it appears that pushers are going to dominant this year. But we will see as we progress in the weeks of Regionals strategies evolve.
May I ask what this has to do with animations? I’ll ask to have this moved into the appropriate sub forum.
how ever if you want my opinion, I believe that it will be whoever can get to the totes first and how many they take with them.
sorry about that I just clicked on the first post and hit the start new thread. I guess I was in a hurry
The dominant stratagy will be to controll your bins for 1 min, then stack, then run to the top of the ramp.
Do you mean what types of robots are most likely to seed the highest or do you mean which robots will be the first selected by the seeded teams?
Who was more “dominant” last year, ball handlers or multiple goal handlers? My experience was that good ball handlers tended to hold the top seeded positions, while the good goal handlers were the first to be picked.
*Originally posted by Jim Meyer *
**Who was more “dominant” last year, ball handlers or multiple goal handlers? My experience was that good ball handlers tended to hold the top seeded positions, while the good goal handlers were the first to be picked. **
That wasn’t entirely true. It happened most of the time, but in the Einstein division last year, the top two seeds were goal grabbers (201 and 311, I believe). It’s all about consistency. If you score less points each round, but you continually acheive the same score, you’ll do better than someone who gets 200 points one round and 5 the next.
A good combination of stacking and a very very good push bot to guard both the stack and the stacking robot will be key…I think? The ramp is also important, 50 points just for getting 2 robots on top.
Hybrids, Todd, hybrids ;). This game’s score can fluctuate a lot in a very short time. Those that can adapt quickly and work well with a variety of teams, both stacker and KOH, will be the higher seeds. I’d keep my eye on any theif bots as well; they can tip the balance in an instant if allowed to run free.
Yah I know those hybrids are tricky! I guess we will have to wait and see tomorrow now won’t we.
*Originally posted by Jeff Waegelin *
**That wasn’t entirely true. It happened most of the time, but in the Einstein division last year, the top two seeds were goal grabbers (201 and 311, I believe). It’s all about consistency. If you score less points each round, but you continually acheive the same score, you’ll do better than someone who gets 200 points one round and 5 the next. **
Thing is they get 200 pts ALL THE TIME while you get 50 pts all the time. My experience at nats last year was “110 point matches aren’t enough” my team was striving for 120 - 130 point matches, because that’s what it took to stay on top. No one got that by crushing the opposition.
This game was designed to prevent what has apparently turned into the default strategy… my opinion is being on top is worth too many points.
Greg
*Originally posted by GregT *
**This game was designed to prevent what has apparently turned into the default strategy… my opinion is being on top is worth too many points. **
Actually getting onto the ramp and holding maybe a default strategy…race to the top of the ramp, slow down to like 2-4 feet per second, hit like the second from the bottom bin and there goes that stack. Now knock over the rest, clearing yourself a spot on it and simultaneously knock 'em down to YOUR side of the field. A bot to do this just needs a drivetrain and some means of prodding a bin to tip a stack over.
*Originally posted by GregT *
**This game was designed to prevent what has apparently turned into the default strategy… my opinion is being on top is worth too many points.Greg **
Yes, it is too many points. Unfortunately, we have to play the game that way. I forsee this being a very defensive-minded game, and thus, my thoughts about consistency. If you can win consistently, you’re going to do well. 50 points may not be a lot, but when other teams get 200, 5, 300, 15, and so on, the constant 50 starts looking pretty good. Sure, a consistent 200 points would be much better, but with all the KOTHs and theives and plows around, it’s going to be hard to acheive those kinds of scores every match. Defending a large stack will be quite a challenge.
All that I am going to say is this…
If the UTC Scrimmage was any indicator of what this competition will be. (And I am very sure it will be). About 60-70% of the people on this board are going to be shocked puppies come saturday afternoon. And I would also hazard a guess that about 50% of teams will have a major design change after thier first regional this year.
Good Luck!
-Andy Grady
What happened at the UTC scrimmage?