Top Elimination Alliance Averages

At Iowa our Alliance (1987,3528,5809) put up a 424 average, and the winning alliance (5690,2410,4506) put up a 380 average. Of note our average does not include any fouls.

What are some of the other top elimination alliance averages and where are they from?

Bayou Regional
3616-3937-281
Averaged 365 (not including fouls)

8th Alliance at Lansing this week hit 445 in every single match.

Los Angeles Regional

696 - 330 - 5124

Averaged 357 no foul points in any of the matches.

NE RI District
Alliance #1: 2168, 78, 6713

had one match where partner had drive train issues halfway through the match in front of the loading station.

Leaving them with an average score of:
432.5 :slight_smile:

Ignoring that match the average jumped to:
466.6 :ahh:

4 matches in row, very impressive. I could not understand how they didn’t get the win, but alas the other alliances just scored more those two matches.

Amazing.

Fuel points made the difference.

Semi-Final match 1 - 447 to 445

Semi-Final Match 2 - 452 to 445

Welcome to the reason why fuel matters! This will happen in world elims on numerous occasions!

The 2 seed (234, 1501, 2197) at Perry Meridian had an average score of 419. If it wasn’t for one bad match (missed the fourth rotor), the 3 seed (135, 1018, 1741) would’ve had the same average.

I believe it was 411 and not 419.
339, 452, 450, 352, 427, 450, 404
Total 2874
Total Matches 7

2874/7 = 410.57

A few folks in this thread have mentioned “if not for that one match where X happened” so I wanted to talk about what could or even should have been our “that one match.” In our second semifinal match, around halfway through teleop, 1076 was having trouble controlling their robot. I wasn’t paying much attention until their coach came over and told me their operator controller wasn’t working, and they wouldn’t be able to climb. I said fine, you’ll play defense in the last 30 seconds, maybe stop the fourth rotor and win us the game. My team only has one driver, and our operator is a controls student whose job it is to observe and debug, so he heads over to 1076’s station, pulls up their DS, checks that yeah, the controller doesn’t work despite plugged in. He comes back to our station, grabs our extra controller, unwinds it, brings it over to 1076, gets it plugged in, they check that it works, and they successfully climb, just in time. It’s also worth noting that 1504 had to do a pretty involved replacement of a mecanum wheel between semifinals as well. My point is this: reliability and achieving perfect averages doesn’t just happen.

There’s a couple leading theories on why we lost, particularly to an alliance that posted much lower scores in both their quarterfinal and final matches. The first is the idea that many alliances can achieve four rotors. The alliance we played against therefore chose to do four rotors in the semifinals, knowing that unless they failed, they could win on fuel points (a different situation than the finals).

The second theory is that the alliance we played against played to the top of their potential in those semifinal matches, but not other matches. I think it’s a bit of both, because they achieved four rotors similarly fast as us, but if you watch them in other matches, this seemed like faster than they would normally be capable of. Either way, we lost to an alliance that was very strong as well.