Who thinks they have the toughest bot from this competition? I think we had the toughest bot.
The two toughest I have seen are 696 and 25. Both have fast drives and a lot of power. Definately not us, but we did push around 60 in the last match of SoCal finals 
we’re very tough as in pushing power and robustness of our chassis, but not so much as in reliablility. I only got to see 25 in the finals…that bot was incredbally fast and really powerful. Could someone tell me hom many fps it was?
Athena is a good bot but you know Blizzard can pus h you around. 6 motor drive, remember.
*Originally posted by Austin *
**. Could someone tell me hom many fps it was? **
bout 15-20 fps we never bothered to check
we on 930 had a tough robot in many senses. Our robustness was probably our highest attribute you can ask 65 who was one of our partners at midwest. You can also ask stang, who we beat at midwest and kept off the top also, watch semifinal 2 to see us. We had a decent autonomous clocking in at just under 5 seconds to the top. We had considerable strength with our six wheel drive. And finally we have yet to meet a bot that can push sideways up the ramp, we could keep anyone off with our little “ramp dance”. I think we are the most robust second year team though. We NEVER took any damage.
While it wasn’t always the fastest or most maneuverable bot out there, I’d like to give some “toughest bot” props to our robot - xtremachen6.
Delphi E.L.I.T.E.'s bot competed in 33 qualifying matches this season, racking up 23 wins - more than any other FIRST team. The TechnoTank-derived shift on the fly drivetrain never failed once. The wings and frame took constant abuse but never broke. The bot survived numerous inversions in Cleveland without a scratch (until the wheelie bar we added virtually eliminated that possibility). It defended numerous stacks and took hits from would-be stack topplers all year long. Very little mechanical maintenance or repair was ever required.
xtremachen6 won the Motorola Quality Award in Pittsburgh and the GM Industrial Design Award in Canada.
More often than not, the bot was on top of the ramp at the end of the match, pushing its share of robots off the ramp in the process.
Several robots have been flipped by XM6 during its charge for the bins in autonomous mode this year. Both of our opponents were pushed down the ramp during our last autonomous run Friday on Curie. One flipped over and the other almost joined them. And we were in high gear.
OK, so after all of that rah-rah stuff, I’d like to vote for Team 25’s robot as the Toughest Bot of the year, with Team 322’s bot as honorable mention.
13.6 fps with 6 inches air off the ramp.
Forgot to include my vote for toughest bot. 1089 was the one bot that consistently gave us pushing trouble- even managed to backdrive us once or twice WITH our brakes on. 103 and 87 also get honorable mentions, since they had bots that teamed up against us TWICE, giving a helluva match each time.
*Originally posted by Austin *
**we’re very tough as in pushing power and robustness of our chassis, but not so much as in reliablility. I only got to see 25 in the finals…that bot was incredbally fast and really powerful. Could someone tell me hom many fps it was? **
from the source- we calculated it at 13.6 FPS- 3.4 secs to the wall
It got away from us in programming at the school, ran up and over the ramp and flew about 8 feet through the air into a brick wall where it hit about 2 ft off the ground. It suffered no damage.
The bumpers on the front and back are supported out from the frame by a set of rubber stoppers. They are good shock absorbers.
The breaker trip in the finals was the ONLY mechanical problem we had since Annapolis. The team rebuilt our entire drill motor housing there because the tight turn in autonomous was flexing the motor mounts so much the drill housings were tearing themselves apart. Since then the machine was a pleasure to drive.
WC
i would have to say 25 for speed and power… 25 has beaten us and 103 in the mid-atlantic regional and now the curie division… lets see how the private competitions turn out
*Originally posted by akwon *
**i would have to say 25 for speed and power… 25 has beaten us and 103 in the mid-atlantic regional and now the curie division… lets see how the private competitions turn out **
With any luck, we’ll be teamed.
Go 87!
*Originally posted by DanielBCR *
**The two toughest I have seen are 696 and 25. Both have fast drives and a lot of power. Definately not us, but we did push around 60 in the last match of SoCal finals**
I haven’t seen 25 but I would agree with 696 being very tough.
That is one thing i am unsure of that 25 was tougher than ours, i was hoping that we would play them cause it was a passion of mine to test our drive train against other bots.
Even though our drive train is questionable on toughness i didnt see a frame as strong as ours. 2 x 4 aluninum channel. We didnt ever touch that frame after we made it.
we were so tough and effective w/ such a simple design that only the refs could stop us!
what do you mean by “tough”? Our bot was really fast and strong, but not the fastest or strongest by any means. However, the one thing we had going for us was our durability! Our robot almost never broke down! We were so incredibly bored on thursday, that we started turning our backup robot into a cart to trasport our robot up the ramps…I mean, who else can say they have a cart that can shift on the fly? Actually, we never finished the cart, because we eventually got bored with the project. Seriously, our only repair was to switch out our wheels a couple times. After a couple regionals, there was too much wear and tear to be ignored, and two of the hubs cracked at west michigan. However, we were prepared and switching out the wheels only took about 5-10 minutes! Compared to last year, where we were making repairs %100 of the time, this year was awesome!
If anyone saw 494’s “Torque Tester” at Nationals, it was pretty cool. We tested our robot on it… but I’m not sure what it read… if anyone can remember what team 234’s robot read and post it here that’d be cool…
Anyways, apparently we had an insane amount of power, and I already knew we had a lot. It’s just that a top heavy robot and a powerful drive aren’t the best combo. Some of the robots we pushed include 245 and 71… too bad we didn’t get a chance to up against 25, I would’ve really liked to see that
Edit : I just got the numbers from a team member, apparently we have around 168 ft/lbs of power but only around 1 ft. per second. Hopefully we can get the speed issue changed during the off season.
Unfortunately, our robot was only running on CIMs for most of the National competition, due to problems with the drill motor transmissions, but I am going to have to put the vote in for our team. During the Seattle regional, there were no teams that even compared to the power and traction we had. We also had close to the fastest autonomous mode there.
The only time we were unable to push another robot was when it had its suction cups down on the top of the ramp.
We also never took any structural damage to our robot and never flipped over.
I am willing to bet that with all our motors working, our robot could have pushed around any robot there (with the possible exception of other robots with tank treads like the technokats.)
Next year, we definitely aren’t going to go with the stock drill motor trannies/mounts.
P.S. How many robots have you seen been able to push robots up the ramp sideways?
I remember at least twice we pushed a robot sideways up the ramp.
In my opinion, our bot was pretty tough. We could go really fast, we didn’t get pushed around that much, and (other than our malfunction in the elimination matches at nats) we were pretty consistent in our strength.
There were robots there, however, that I was pretty sure we would have had a hard time moving in the finals…
25 and 111 were definitely a tough bots. i was kinda hoping to see what would happen if 25 ran up one of 111’s ramps at the top of the mesh. i wonder how much air 25 would get. talk about frequent flier miles!!