Not necessarily. That could be fixed as part of your design.
Sub 1 second? No.
I do however think that as the season goes on more and more teams will see “how its done” with the minibot then the game will undergo a shift from a Minibot heavy game in the first three weeks to a tube heavy game at championship as the minibots become more even.
Einstein will be a battle of who can put up the tubes and who can hit the button the fastest to deploy their minibots.
Haven’t seen 469 yet though…
We’ve been trying to improve our minibot (which won top honors at the RaChaCha Rally in the Minibot Race), but have had a very hard time pushing under the 2.5 second climb + deploy mark…
Everything we have tried to get it to go faster hasn’t had the torque to climb, and perhaps there is something we are missing. It wouldn’t surprise me!
I am confident we will see a minibot get to the top in less than 1.4 seconds. Yes, 1.4 seconds including deployment.
I will bet a Mountain Dew on it. Any takers?
I have to agree with you Paul. I think including deployment you will see the 1.2 sec mark pushed.
It’s an estimate from youtube quality video, but 118’s minibot appears to climb in very nearly 1 second exactly.
I’ll bet a Mountain Dew that no minibot will hit the top of the tower at the 8.6 second mark in a match (1.4 seconds from 10.0).
That said, I agree with the “spirit” of the bet and believe 1.3 and 1.2 second minibots will happen.
I will up Pauls bet for you if the 1.4 sec mark is not hit i will buy you a throwback Mountain Dew.
If you’ll be at FLR, I’ll take that bet, with the added rule that it is a minibot from a team other than 217 and at FLR 
That’s a sucker bet…I’m guessing that Paul has a very good reason to believe that 1.4 sec is obtainable. Say, oh…I don’t know, maybe he’s seen his own robot do it???
I fully agree with you Paul. We will see sub 1.4 including deployment, and it will be awesome!
-Brando
I’d happily trade a Mountain Dew to see that! 
I’ll see your Mountain Dew, and raise you a Cherry Pepsi.
I think there will be several teams capable of doing this.
But will it count? From the Q&A:
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There is no synchronization between the timer on the field and the robot code. The FMS-to-DS control packets do not include match time. While a team could start their own timer running on the robot when they receive the indication for Teleop start, there is no guarantee that their timer will be synced with the FMS server.
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Deployment time will be judged based on observations in each MATCH, not on ROBOT design or programming.
It sounds like there will be a ref watching your minibot to ensure that you don’t deploy before the 10 second mark. If you wait for a field signal to start deployment you will have a reaction time in that 1.4 seconds. If you try to anticipate you run the risk of getting called for early deployment. If you depend on elapsed time you will need to build in some delay so the ref can be sure you weren’t early.
I wouldn’t want to be a ref this year. There are too many game deciding calls to be made.
I believe that a sub 1 second mini bot deployment and climb is possible and will be seen. I’ll not say why.
Playing a role in the developement on buzz’s mini-bot i must say that deployment is by far the hardest part, but yet the most important, if you think about it the mini-bot actually has a 20 sec time period to climb the pole in, 10 secs at the end of regulation match then 10 secs beyond that.
The versatility of a deployment mechanism is what will make or break the mini-bot, it may climb it in one second however if it’s not at the pole it isn’t going anywhere. Reliability will be a key factor.
A 1 sec mini-bot will be done is my guess.
There is no time sync, but there is a indicator that your machine can pay attention to. Use the lights at the base of the tower. The robot’s reaction speed can quite possibly be faster than a driver’s reflexes.
Agreed.
The deployment is the key to having a successful minibot. After many posts and speculation, I’m still undecided on whether or not we’ll see one. . . until championships. It’ll take some refining and a hard study on balance but it is hypothetically obtainable (if not already).
Why not drive, line up and contact the tower before 10 seconds? Only the minibot can’t cross the line before endgame, the hostbot has no such restriction.
I’ve seen it in 1/5 that time. maxmax161 even posted a video of it.
Not from me :yikes:
Hey don i know i should know the answer to this but i don’t. I am being told you cant not break the plain of the barrel even with the large robot.