*Originally posted by petek *
**Well, that would explain the firmware update and the iMac memory in your earlier post…
You can download the iMac firmware update from Apple downloads
Does the 333 MHz iMac use a CD tray or is it slot loading? The update on Apple is for slot loading. Don’t know about earlier iMacs.
As far as stability goes, I’ve had no problems with OS X.2.4 on a beige G3 (other than getting it installed), a 400 MHz iMac and my TiBook. I can’t remember the last time any of these machines crashed. Seriously, like more than two months without a crash on any of them. The only things that have any problems are IE and Word (which will crash if it doesn’t have the necessary fonts installed). Neither of them take the system down though. **
When I try to install the Firmware tells me that it doesnt know the firmware that is already on my machine. I have a trayloading machine.
the server is actualy up now… but the GUI is running slow.
*Originally posted by MattK *
**When I try to install the Firmware tells me that it doesnt know the firmware that is already on my machine. I have a trayloading machine.
the server is actualy up now… but the GUI is running slow.
Make sure you’re loading the correct firmware for your iMac. It sounds like you’re using firmware for the later slot-loading iMac.
I wouldn’t expect great GUI performance on a 333 - OS X is very graphic intensive and the G3 iMacs are pretty limited in that area.
Also, after any software install or update, make sure you run the Disk Utility and repair permissions. That is one thing that seems to help stability (thought not speed, unfortunately).
I’m not surprised. My 400MHz machine was pretty sluggish.
How much RAM do you have?
Is this a machine that you plan to use everyday? Because if you have OSX multitasking you’re going to notice a drastic decrease in server capability.
Open up “Terminal” and type in “top”. You’ll see the most recent thirty processes that you are running or have ran.
You’ll want to keep a close count on the number of processes. I’ve noticed that once I get up to 10,000, my machine is slow as mud when I try to SSH or FTP in.
Personally, I restart my server once every couple of months or when I start to notice it’s getting sluggish, and I try to restrict it’s use to just serving.
Also, you might want to play around with Energy Saver and make it so your monitor goes to sleep even if your computer is always awake. It can’t hurt, and might help save your monitor. My old iMac blew it’s graphics chip early this year, after running fine in Classic for a good year and a half and OSX for about two months. I don’t know if it was related to the increased graphics toll in OSX, and I doubt that OSX was the definitive cause…but it can’t hurt to just keep your monitor off when it’s not needed.
The good news is tha OSX comes preconfigured with perl and php–all you have to do is enable the mods in apache. mySQL can be a bitch to set up, but it’s doable. I might be able to help you with that, although I’ll be honest: my experience with getting mySQL to work usually involved random typing on the keyboard and fervent prayer.
try to run os x 10.2 on a 333 g3 and you’re gonna BURN I wouldn’t bother running it anything earlier than a 500 mhz (my sister’s 333 tray-loading iMac ran sluggish with 10.1)
also, crucial is one of the BEST places you can buy ram. OWC uses crappy tier 3 ram. wouldn’t trust their ram with my data.
your best bet would to be to reformat and just install the base darwin. (or yellow dog linux)
*Originally posted by AlbertW *
**try to run os x 10.2 on a 333 g3 and you’re gonna BURN I wouldn’t bother running it anything earlier than a 500 mhz (my sister’s 333 tray-loading iMac ran sluggish with 10.1)
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OS 10.2.4 is running fine on a 400MHz iMac and a 466MHz beige G3 at my house. None of the users are complaining, which is a nice change from the crash-prone OS 9.x days. OS 10.1 was reputed to be a dog, but I wouldn’t expect a 333MHz machine to work well with 10.2 either.
*Originally posted by AlbertW *
**try to run os x 10.2 on a 333 g3 and you’re gonna BURN I wouldn’t bother running it anything earlier than a 500 mhz (my sister’s 333 tray-loading iMac ran sluggish with 10.1)
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I have been running OS X 10.2 on a 400 mhz blue and white G3 for 6 months, and it’s been great. Hasn’t crashed once.
On the odd occasion, I get the spinning beach ball cursor in Internet Explorer for longer than I like, so I go and check my email, and when I come back, it’s finished spinning.
Sure, I would love to have one of the latest greatest Macs, but this is working fine for me.
Personaly, I’ve been running xp on my laptop for about a month now with no XP related crashes or freeze ups. A few of my programs die every now and then, but thats probably related to their inate buggyness.
Most people I know love OS X. Others seem to be having a hell of a time with it, and none of us can figure out why. Same with XP. I suppose some configurations just don’t play nice with any OS.
*Originally posted by petek *
**I wouldn’t expect great GUI performance on a 333 - OS X is very graphic intensive and the G3 iMacs are pretty limited in that area. **
I’m using and indigo 350mhz iMac running 10.2.6- it works fine!
before we got an airport extreme base station, I had a Performa 6400 running OS8.6 24/7 for months on end (until rolling blackouts hit, anyway) as our router
If there is still a problem with the upgrade to OS X, here is a link to a “Tidbits” article on upgrading the firmware on iMacs before installing Jaguar (OS X 10.2). The article contains a link to the correct Apple downloads.
I wouldn’t bother running it anything earlier than a 500 mhz (my sister’s 333 tray-loading iMac ran sluggish with 10.1)
I wouldn’t bother running it anything earlier than a 500 mhz (my sister’s 333 tray-loading iMac ran sluggish with 10.1)
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