USB Gamepads as controllers?

Could a generic (logitec or something else common) usb gamepad be used in place of the usb joysticks?

The logitec gamepad i have did not require external drivers to be used on my computer, and i was told any joystic would work if it did not need external drivers.

my understanding is yes, i have heard stories of people using DDR and guitar hero guitars as robot controllers!!

ya my team is seriusly considering a DDR pad for a controller

We are successfully using a Logitech Dual Action gamepad without issues.

There are other existing discussions about alternate controllers, I suggest you search for them.

Pretty much. It uses standard HID… so things that don’t use drivers on the computers -should- work fine on the driver station.

Cool, thanks guys.

my logitech driving force gt shows up as a joy stick on my linux box just fine, but I can’t seem to use it as a joystick on the driver station.

So, by no external drivers, what would that mean? That windows could detect it?

because I have a Philips gamepad that I think my team would like to use, but i’m questioning if it would. Windows could tell it existed and tell what buttons were pressed, but I still wonder if it would work. This is because the same controller had a profiler, and I don’t think that it provides a driver, but I could be wrong.

Yes, our team is mostly working with the stock KOP logitec controllers but we have the capability to switch to our xBox 360 wired controller.

The logitech dual action gamepad works great. We just bought several at a local Gamestop which does carry them normally.

The older joysticks were horrible. This years joysticks the logitecs are amazing. I encourage using them. Besides the joystick and triggers/buttons i particurely like the throttle at the bottom. It makes The joysticks available for extra functionality other then driving.

Hold on, I thought teams couldn’t get the xbox 360 controller working because it needed a driver. If you did get it working, we would love it if you could share the code.

I think a team should use DDR pads to control their robot. Something like this maybe:

http://www.redoctane.com/Game-Controllers/DDR-Dance-Pads/Afterburner-Metal-Dance-Pad?leadsource=7

That would be pretty amusing to see somebody jumping around on a mat. I don’t know if it will be within restrictions though for the driver station.

how do i get my xbox 360 control to work???:confused:

Plug it in to an xbox 360?

Seriously, that controller does not follow the USB HID standard, and is not usable by the 2009 FRC Driver Station.

we have used an xbox 360 controller for the past 2 years.
2007 we used xbox 360 controller, and a guitar hero controller.
2008 we used an xbox 360 controller and a basic button system for the other.

What Alan is saying is that the Xbox 360 controller is not compatible with the new driver station. If you plug it in you will find that it doesn’t work.

The Chicklet USB-to-gameport translator has programming that allows it to talk the Xbox 360 controller’s language. There are drivers for Windows to do the same thing.

The 2009 FRC Driver Station lacks the necessary driver.

You can use an Xbox 360 controller plugged in to an appropriately-configured Chicklet connected to the analog and digital headers on the side of the Driver Station, and probably get it to work the same way it did last year. I think that’s a lot of extra work and wiring, and I think you’d be better off with a standards-compliant HID game controller.

If anyone can post a tut or a vid of how to do this, our team would appreciate it.

You’d also have to rig up a boost power supply for the chicklet, as the DS only supplies 5V, but the chicklet wants 7.2-12v and using a battery on the operator console isn’t legal this year like it was in the past. I guess you could probably also bypass the regulator on the chicklet. Neither would be trivial to do safetly

Since the chicklet is no longer available, I wonder if it would be legal to use on the operator console in the first place?