Using Part of a Modified Part: Allowed or Not?

question

#1

Say I rip an aluminum bar off last year’s robot. I then cut off the ends of the bar with drill holes in them, so the bar looks as new (though somewhat shorter than originally). Is this bar still considered a modified part, and thus unusable on this year’s robot? Or since the cuts that un-modified it were made this year, is it considered fair game?


#2

For all those visiting this page but lacking answers, what’s your opinion on the matter?

  • I’d like to know the answer to this as well.
  • Sounds legal to me.
  • If the inspectors don’t notice, it’s legal. :wink:
  • It’s probably illegal.
  • It’s unethical, even if it’s not specifically disallowed.

0 voters


#3

The idea being that you’ve returned it to the condition it was in as a new, COTS, raw material.


#4

Sounds about right. You’ve turned a fabricated part into a standard piece of aluminum extrusion.


#5

Part was turned into scrap material.
Scrap material is perfectly legal to use.


#6

From robot rules Section 8.1

Bte that it is possible for an item (typically raw materials) to be neither COTS nor a FABRICATED ITEM. For example, a 20 ft. length of aluminum which has been cut into 5 ft. (~152 cm) pieces by the Team for storage or transport is neither COTS (it’s not in the state received from the VENDOR), nor a FABRICATED ITEM (the cuts were not made to advance the part towards its final form on the ROBOT).

I would put raw material salvaged from previous robots in this category. As long as you are not re-using pieces as removed. But please scrape off last years inspection stickers. :]


#7

I would also see it this way. It’s a chunk of aluminum (possibly with holes in it) that you used in a new way with more holes/cutouts this year.

But scrape off last years inspection stickers? Where’s the fun in that? True story: Showed up at a preseason with the previous years robot with some modifications. The real robot showed up at the first regional.


#8

To not allow this would not be environmentally responsible. Reduce, reuse, recycle!

Why require that someone purchase a new piece of aluminum stock when the identical thing is already available to be recovered as a resource, rather than disposed of? Even if it could be recycled, that unnecessarily uses energy and other resources.

I can’t believe FIRST would condone that approach.