Versaplanetry Parts

Hi,
After years of using versaplanetry gearbox we have a lot of storage boxes for its parts.
How do you organize it effectively?

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We use a compartment box to organize them.

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This is something new we’ve tried over the 2019 season and we think it’s worked out great! We’ve also started to “kit-afy” other things like bearings or chain.

Edit: Sorry, for the blury picture. (Click on it to see the full thing btw. Google photos embedding is weird.)

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Put all the gears under as much torque as possible and the ones that break are parts of the 9:1 or 10:1 and the rest are different. Boom. Sorted

The divided box in the picture from @Nessie is a good example of proper organizing for multiple small parts in a single system. I would recommend using something similar or making your own dividers and saving money

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I’d use these, or possibly the better ones available from other companies, depending on how often I needed to get at them:

https://www.harborfreight.com/8-bin-portable-parts-storage-case-93927.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/19-bin-portable-parts-storage-case-93928.html

(And, as pictured above, bag and label the actual planetary gearsets)

What we especially like about having things in kits like that is we can just grab the versa kit and bring it over to where we are assembling/modifying a versa and everything* we need is there in one place.

This was especially nice with the chain kit as we’d have runs of chain, sprockets and the chain break tools all together in a kit we could grab and carry over to the robot when working on it. It also made helping other teams with chain issues really easy at competition. Just grab the kit and go over to their pit with it. Everything you need is at your finger tips all neat and organized container.

*We don’t currently have the tools like Allen keys required for assembling versas stored with the kit. But that’ll probably be an improvement we will try and implement next year. It’s worth spending a little bit of money to have a separate set of dedicated tools that stays with the kit.

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I used these

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Tool-Organizer-25-Compartments/dp/B074MGD4S8/ref=sr_1_1?crid=25LUAU3WI8PWC&keywords=amazonbasics%2Btool%2Borganizer%2B-%2B25%2Bcompartments&qid=1563220278&s=home-garden&sprefix=amazonbasics%2Bcompartment%2Cgarden%2C190&sr=1-1-catcorr&th=1
They were fantastic as long as ratios are kept in labeled baggies.

A 3 part kit:
– a shallow parts container holds gear stages, fasteners, input couplers, wave springs, and snap rings; this travels to competition; we recently added Armabot’s sorting template to this container
– a deep parts container holds input and output blocks, ring gears, output shafts, and bearings; this travels to competition
– a medium size storage bin holds brand-new unopened kits and fully-assembled gearmotors; no open boxes or partial assemblies are allowed to be stored here; this bin stays home and does not travel

Initial assembly of a VP, a sacred ritual, may occur only on a clean, well-lit work surface in a quiet shop.

Where do you get one of those? Part number?

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Just buy some of these: :slight_smile:
*https://www.mcmaster.com/6704t95
*https://www.mcmaster.com/overhead-lights
*https://www.mcmaster.com/workbenches
*https://www.mcmaster.com/cleaning-supplies

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You forgot the most important part:
https://www.mcmaster.com/deadbolt-locks
Need to keep those pesky students out
if you want to keep it clean.

*Note: Students on my team do more cleaning in the shop than I do these days, the above was said very tongue in cheek :slight_smile:

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So what you’re saying is you make the students do the cleaning while you build the robot?! /s

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Our 2019 freshmen travel in a pack, and one day they were all leaving and one of them stopped the others and said “wait, we left a mess and should clean up a bit.” I almost died of shock.

Anyways, we organize our VP stuff by tossing it all in a box labeled “versaplanetary” and training people in deep breathing exercises and stress management before opening it. It’s terrible.

This has been key to making our shop run more efficiently (though we have not done it for more than a couple items). 10/10 would recommend to any team that has the spare funding for a few additional allen wrenches and the like.

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We actually just built a new place for this in our shop, which we call the “VersaPlace” (it sounds better in Hebrew). It has all of the parts in plastic storage boxes that are bolted onto the wall and has a table that’s supposed to be used only for assembling VPs during the season.

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Doesn’t everybody?

We have separate bins for gearsets sorted by gear ratio. We keep the new gearsets in the VEX bag which has a label for the gear ratio. We make sure that previously used gearsets are placed in a sealed, labeled ziplock bag before being put into the bin. If you plan to re-use gearsets, you will want to clean and inspect them before re-stocking them. I measure all the gearsets (sun and planet gears) with a caliper and compare the measurement with the VP user guide to confirm the gear ratio before putting it into the labeled bag.

We have a separate bin for ring gears. We put the plastic ones (VP lite) and the metal ones in the same bin as they are easy to tell apart.

We put the output shaft and mounting stage in another bin (basically in sets like they come in the box).

We have a separate bin for shafts as we stock a lot of new shafts to replace ones that are cut or machined in previous years.

We have a bin for encoder slices and another bin for CIM adapters.

We put all the bolts, hex inserts and motor mounting hardware in a bin. It would be nice to separate these into the individual sizes, but we have not done that at this point. The students need to dig to find the bolts they need.

We have another bin for the motor adapters and shaft collars.

We are able to have all these bins fit into a medium depth drawer in out toolbox so we can keep an ample supply of parts in our pit at competition. We generally have higher quantity of some parts than can fit in the drawer (CIM adaptors and the different mounting plates that come in the kit, for example). We keep the overflow in a separate bin and then re-stock the bins in the drawer when they have room.

We just started this last year and it seems to work pretty well. We will probably find ways to fine tune this system, but I am pretty happy with the system so far.

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What did you name it in Hebrew?

I don’t know what’s your Hebrew knowledge, but I tried to fill the language gap as much as I could in this (probably) pretty bad linguistics explanation:

We call it HaVersiya (הוורסיה in Hebrew, on account of versa = וורסה), which uses the same template as “places where you can get x / buy stuff” in Hebrew - xiya, such as Tsarhaniya (צרכניה), which is a different word for marketplace (tsarhan is a customer in Hebrew, צרכן) or Birgiya, which is a (kinda) slang word for a screw box (boreg is a screw in Hebrew, בורג).

I hope that makes some sense :sweat_smile:

We use these to store the gear sets, they fit in perfectly. https://www.harborfreight.com/24-container-storage-box-90243.html

They then get put into the larger bins where we store the housing and outputs in the larger bins. Best system we have ever used https://www.harborfreight.com/8-bin-portable-parts-storage-case-93927.html

We also use the template from armabot to make sure we have the right gears in the stages https://www.armabot.com/collections/frontpage/products/versaplanetary-template

For the gear sets, do you just put one set in each of the small containers? Or are they large enough to fit multiple of one ratio in each?