WCP 2024 CC Robot

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We are thrilled to announce our 2024 CC Robot!

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The CAD and related information is available here soon… Key takeaways from this experience:

  • Shooting into the amp is viable
  • Drivetrain speed is more important than ever
  • Human load only robots need to be quick, can’t waste any time lining up
  • Going under the chains seems to be a huge benefit
  • Higher pivot shooters allow for a harder to block shot, but severely limit your range
  • Shooting the Note from close is pretty reliable but gets much harder the further you get from speaker
  • The notes seem to wear pretty quickly, accelerating the object and compressing the least seems to help.
  • Drive practice will be king as it is in most years. It has been fun watching our driver on FRC1323 drive around.
  • Shooting without vision has been doable
  • Shooting on the fly manually has been fun!

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Good luck teams!

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Reminds me a lot of the Killer Bees 2013 robot without a ground intake, I like it !

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It looks like 1323 got Krakens already. When did you order them?

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Did the driver just shoot on the move manually :sob:

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What part of it limits your range?

This thing cooks RC - crazy how much performance you can get this year with a very simple robot. Really looking forward to the season!

A high shooter has a wider angle for shooting close up compared to a low shooter, but they also have a narrower angle at a further distance compared to a low shooter.

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What is the reason for forgoing a ground intake? It seems counterintuitive for a “cc” type robot to have no way of scoring more than one gamepiece in auto.

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I suspect for similar reasons to everybot deciding to limit complexity and work off of kitbot- degree of freedom saved is a degree of freedom earned and all that.

Sad to see no climber. Seems like a miss in terms of competitiveness.

edit, missed the link for the vid - thought it was just a picture - whoops.

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Did you not watch till the end?

Missed the fact there was a video entirely…

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Ill be the first to admit that my eyesight isint great, but I dont see where this is based off the kitbot at all.

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I didn’t say it was based off of kitbot.

Kitbot limited the complexity of a ground intake on purpose (after a long internal debate). Similar reasoning here wouldn’t surprise me. Keeping everything as one mechanism improves reliability.

Looking at last year, another fast cycling game, ground intakes were only useful for the first 30 seconds on a LOT of bots.

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It would surprise me a little. There a reason WCP’s designs are not considered a “minimum” competitive concept anymore.

And game pieces scored in auto are always worth the amplified score. Sure, once teleop hits its not as important, but why leave all those points on the table?

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The shooting into the amp is crazy. someone 1323 making my jar drop before their official bot

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We felt that to be in the 95th percentile robot this year you could skip the ground load or add it later. For us our priority was on driver practice, fast cycles and quick human loading.

Lots of ways to expand the design to be “ground” loader if you feel its needed. This robot was designed similar to 1538’s 2013 robot aka one of my favorite robots of all time. This design can easily be modified to have an intake on the shooter Or you could look at 1986 in 2013 or why not both!

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Doesn’t not having a ground pickup disqualify anything above a 1 piece auto?

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This thing is scary fast.

Is there space below, where this motor could be mounted to the inside?

Perhaps it will change once we see matches, but I think it’s going to be an uphill climb to make championship playoffs as a non-backup without a floor pickup. Teams will do it, but they better be really strong in other areas and/or employ some defensive autos.

Super sick robot, though. This year’s game is shaping up to be extremely fun.

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I’m not RC, but that looks awful close to where the chain goes pre-hang. I don’t love dangling motors out like that, but it feels like a considered choice.