While I’m sure many members of the community are glad you’ve published this robot and your documentation for it, myself included, I’m not sure if it’s “minimally competitive” given that based on our own strategic analysis this robot would win quite a few district events as the alliance captain.
That is a tough MCC for most teams to build outright but probably the best MCC yet in terms of capability and design. I think it is an awesome bot and I hope that it can raise the floor for a lot of teams competitively.
I mean actual worst case scenario would be for low resource teams (who made design tradeoffs to stay within their capabilities) to see this “MCC+” and believe that they aren’t doing enough… and then try to do more, only to derail their whole season.
I personally appreciate this video as it’s full of awesome ideas that I’ll take back to the teams I work with. I just worry that some teams out there will see it and overreact.
I have to disagree. The worst case is some “clueless rookie” as you put it sees this “Minimum Competitive Concept” and decides that in order to be competitive they need to score in the rocket.
I think if WCP wants to make something like this every year, a better route might be publishing an MCC is, and then making some notes about routes that teams could use to expand past the MCC if they accomplish it.
Alternatively, label it “West Coast Products Showcase” or even “Ri5d”, so you’re not giving off the impression that teams need to build this to be competitive.
For any teams reading this, you don’t need to build an elevator to be successful. Build something like this.
The linked robot from 2655’s video would almost certainly get picked at almost every regional or district event if you drove it effectively. And they’re releasing the CAD file for that manipulator on their website.
Subtract the 2nd stage of the elevator and this is what I would have told all lower resource teams and rookies to build. People really over estimate the difficulty of fabricating a good elevator. TSIMFD.
If the goal is not to deceive, then a less deceptive approach to branding should be taken. “MCC” and “MCC+” are poorly defined terms in the FRC community, but to me, MCC+ implies a slightly more competitive than baseline robot. Based on this and past WCP MCCs, I’d like to propose “Excellent but Strategically-Misguided Medium-Resource-Cost Robot”. A bit less catchy, but actually honest.
No, this is not the worst case. The worst case is that some impressionable rookie or low-resource team sees this, builds an elevator because they think they need one to be competitive, then ruins their season by overreaching and failing to deliver a working robot. I’ve been on a team that has poorly read the game and was burned by overreaching (by building an elevator, btw), and it was by far the most miserable season I have had in my almost eight years of FRC. WCP is not only failing to help this problem but is actively instigating it in the name of flaunting their products.