Who Would You Save?

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This is an assignment that I need to do for my Sociology class in College. You can only save 7 people. Who would you save.

A severe storm has crippled a small ship, the S.S. Guppy, and the only remaining lifeboat has room for only seven people. You have no hope of reaching civilization, but there’s a fairly good chance that you can make it to one of many small, uncharted, and unpopulated islands in the area. You may have to remain on such an island for years. Your task is to choose which seven people should be allowed on the lifeboat, and hence, be allowed to survive.

1.Dr. Dane: thirty-seven, Ph.D. in history, college professor, in good health (jogs daily), hobby is botany, enjoys politics, married with one child (Bobby).

  1. Mrs. Dane: thirty-eight, rather obese, diabetic, M.A. in psychology, counselor in a mental health clinic, married to Dr. Dane, has one child.

3.Bobby: ten, mentally delayed with IQ of 70.

4.Mrs. Victor: twenty-three, ninth-grade education, bleeptail waitress, worked as a prostitute, married at age sixteen, divorced at age eighteen.

5.Jean Garcia: three months old, healthy.

  1. Mary Evans: eighteen, trade school education, wears glasses, artistic.

7.Mr. Newton: twenty-five year old homosexual starting last year of medical school, , music as a hobby, physical fitness nut.

8.Mrs. Clark: twenty-eight, daughter of a minister, college graduate, electronics engineer, single now after a brief marriage, member of Zero Population.

9.Mr. Blake: fifty-one, B.S. in mechanics, married with four children, enjoys outdoors, much experience in construction, quite handy, sympathizes with anti-black views.

  1. Father Frans: thirty-seven, Catholic, priest, active in civil rights, former college athlete, farming background, often criticized for liberal views.

  2. Dr. Gonzales: sixty-six, doctor in general practice, two heart attacks in the past five years, loves literature and quotes extensively.

note Zero Population is a contravertial theory that a man and a woman should have no more than 1 kid as to not increase the population.

I chose to save 1,3,6,7,8,9,10.

I’m actually a little more interested in why you chose not to save people.

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1.6.7.8.9.10.11

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k well ill choose 4 of the 11 people i wouldnt save…

2=survival of the fittest…nuff sed

4=wont contribute positively towards survival

5=one more mouth to feed, dead weight and wont contribute towards survival

toss up between 6 and 11=once 6 loses/damages her glasses, she cant do anything and becomes dead weight. (but thats just with the assumption that she can’t see anything without her glasses)
11 is near death age and has health issues, wont be able to contribute if hes near dead…

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I would save 1,2,3,6,8,9,10.

I would leave 4 because she would annoy me too much as well as stir up conflict.

I would leave 5 because she probably won’t live long anyways.

I would leave 7 because he would annoy me too much. My guess is he would try to get me to exercise a lot and would keep playing music.

I would leave 11 due to heart attacks.

My only problem with the assignment, would a 3 month old really take up a spot on the boat?

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Gilligan…the skipper too…the millionaire, and his wife…the movie star…the professor and Maryann…

That was easy

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You had me at Maryann.

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Solution: make the person who dreamed of this scenario walk the plank then put everyone else in the lifeboat, where they would suck it up being uncomfortable having 11 people in a 7 person lifeboat until either rescued or drift onshore.

Since the story is also loose on details, generally crippled != sunk. If by “crippled” they mean irreparable propulsion (engine, sails, etc) damage but with no structural damage to the hull, then why even leave the boat? But if there is hull damage and the boat is sinking, then at that point gather as much floatable objects at once and make a quick ad hoc raft to carry the other survivors and as much food and water as possible. If the boat is slowly sinking, and everyone and everything is in the lifeboat and/or makeshift rafts that’s worth saving, then light the remains of the ship on fire before it sinks away. The plume of smoke will be visible from a long ways away and might help your case of being rescued if spotted by other boats or aircraft in the area.

Besides, this is pointless. Anyone on a real sinking ship is going to live in the moment, and not give even the slightest thought to who would help them survive longer if they drifted onto a deserted island. At that point it would be women and children first into the lifeboat.

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Ok, notice that he said it was for a sociology class which usually means pointless in any form of logic. It is more about what thought process you would go through if you had time to think. It is about understanding how you think. To be honest, it is one of the classes that the less you think, the better you are off. This is why it probably isn’t the best class for engineers. We tend to like to think things through.

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Who I would save:
1:A college professor would hopefully possess some leadership skills, and could help take command. Botany is an excellent hobby to have for such a situation, in order to help identify useful plants. Will be damaged by loss of wife and child, but will hopefully be able to recover.

4:Working in the service industry (both as waitress and prostitute) would necessitate good people skills. Easy enough to get along with. While not highly educated, most of the skills you would learn in high school are not valuable in a survival situation, so not a large hindrance.

6: Trade school education is possibly valuable, although it doesn’t specify which trade. Art talent is useful for helping keep people entertained and morale high. Young, which means she is less likely to have serious health complications. Glasses could present a problem if damaged, but not enough information is given to know for sure. However in many modern glasses, the frames are more likely to break than the actual lenses, so something can be rigged to hold the lenses.

7:Young and very well educated (medical school). Medical school knowledge would be useful for treating any problems that might arise. Music can help keep people entertained. Being a physical fitness nut means he is likely to be able to help with hard labor, not as likely to get ill.

9: Experience in construction would be valuable. Knowledge of mechanics would likely prove useful. Enjoys outdoors, so would be better able to cope, may have understanding of survival. Possible conflicts with #10 due to views on racial issues.

10: Farming background would be very valuable. Hopefully still fit as a former college athlete, but not specified. Religion can be helpful as a comfort to the survivors, could also cause conflicts. May have conflicts with #9, but farming background too valuable to ignore.

11: A practicing doctor is very useful to have, even with a medical student already on the list. However his poor health and advanced age will be a problem. Ultimately however, he presents a better option than any of the remaining candidates. His love of literature could help to provide entertainment.

People not to bring
2: While it would be very useful to have a psychologist and mental health worker, her poor physical condition would be detrimental. The diabetes would also be a problem, with no sure way to monitor blood sugar levels, and no guarantee for an easy way to adjust them.

3: The mentally impaired child would prove a burden on the other people on the island, and has no useful skills.

5: Too young to perform any sort of labor, will prove a hindrance.

8: There is unlikely to be any working electronics on the island, so the skills of an electrical engineer are not necessary. No beneficial other skills listed. While her age is acceptable, there is nothing to distinguish her above any other member.

The big choice involved #2 and #11. Both present useful skills and severe health problems. I ended up going with #11 because a diabetic crisis seemed like it would arise sooner than another heart issue. Would definitely be willing to substitute the two however.

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I love these sort of scenarios and think about them all the time (Scary huh…)

Assuming I too would be in the life boat and have my Water Buffalo Killer Knife (yes- I always have that and other things with me)…

I would save

  1. Dr. Dane-a botanist has a fair understanding of food plants and pharmacology
  2. Mrs Victor-tough enough to survive a lot of hardships
    6 Mary Evans-young (durable) and creative
  3. Mr. Newton-med background and physically fit
  4. Mrs. Clark-young enough to survive, skills of little use based on descrip
  5. Mr. Blake- possible designer for escape and shelter
    10.Father Frans-obvious farming skills but also a good moderator for the population

I would leave behind (sorry)-
2. Mrs Dane- probable non-survivor
3. Bobby- tough choice- could probably survive but as limited contributor to the survival of the rest ( I might change my mind here and drop Mrs. Clark)
5. Jeanne Garcia- how would you feed a 3 month old without a milk source?
11. Dr. Gonzales- for a doctor he doesnt seem to have very good health and probably would be of little help. The med student probably knows enough to deal with first aid type situations.

Assuming a reasonable part of the world as a place to land on a small island with a seacoast might support 8 people indefinitely. There is always food. There is an ocean for water if you can refine it. It wouldn’t be fun but it is possible. And , like Gilligan, we could eventually escape

WC

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Thinking entirely logically and with no emotion involved,and working within the usual rules for these thought problems, here are my choices.

I didn’t think about who I’d want most, but who I’d want least. 3 and 5 were the first to go because they are both too young and wouldn’t be able to add as much as the others to survival. My next thought was 2 or 11 because of their health problems, and ultimately I’d choose to leave behind 2, because theoretically 11 can get into better health to keep from having a heart attack, but if 2 doesn’t have a ready source of insulin there might be some problems. Finally after leaving behind both 2 and 3 I figured 1 would be the least useful because of the psychological trauma of having to leave behind both his wife and child.

Now, in reality I would put eight people on the raft, giving one of them my seat, including the most unhealthy ones. I would then rip some wood planking from the ship and build small rafts for myself and the three healthiest other people, likely 1, 7, and 10.

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Not sure I quite agree with that…

Anyway, I wouldn’t save:

3: too young and wouldn’t contribute enough
4: lack of education and lack of contribution
5: too young
9: anti-black views could be a sign of much more drama

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I honestly think 3 is underestimated. Sure, he doesn’t have the best mental facilities. However, do you really want to be climbing trees and stuff?(Think fruit). Sometimes it helps to have a kid. Especially if you need small fingers or such.

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Yea if he doesn’t climb the trees, how are you supposed to make coconut radios?:stuck_out_tongue:

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So, just taking a guess here but, will the results show the percentages of those who are driven to survive at all costs, regardless of the dim or grim prospects - to the point of losing all compassion and kindness when facing catastrophe? It boils down to survival of the fittest, period?

It would be interesting to see who firefighters would save and why.

This assignment isn’t pointless and it does create opportunities to think and to use a system of logic to ‘justify’ your choices, shifting allegiances and changing, suspending, or dropping biases if the end result better insures your survival. It also creates opportunities to reveal sides of yourself and your society that you may not have thought about.

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1.Dr. Dane: thirty-seven, Ph.D. in history, college professor, in good health (jogs daily), hobby is botany, enjoys politics, married with one child (Bobby).

  1. Mrs. Dane: thirty-eight, rather obese, diabetic, M.A. in psychology, counselor in a mental health clinic, married to Dr. Dane, has one child.
    Darn good coupling, might be able to bring #3 into the game well. Consequentially you will have at least a 3 person team that will know each other quite well. Father Frans would lead them, and then the 3 m.o. would be brought into the world as quite a good person, having some form of diverse family. Keepers.

3.Bobby: ten, mentally delayed with IQ of 70.
keep.

4.Mrs. Victor: twenty-three, ninth-grade education, bleeptail waitress, worked as a prostitute, married at age sixteen, divorced at age eighteen.
Keep… might help with the raising of Jean.

5.Jean Garcia: three months old, healthy.
Keep… will grow to adapt to the conditions.

  1. Mary Evans: eighteen, trade school education, wears glasses, artistic.
    Leave her on the boat with the engineers.

7.Mr. Newton: twenty-five year old homosexual starting last year of medical school, , music as a hobby, physical fitness nut.
Keep for med stuff.

8.Mrs. Clark: twenty-eight, daughter of a minister, college graduate, electronics engineer, single now after a brief marriage, member of Zero Population.
Leave her on the boat for a moment…

9.Mr. Blake: fifty-one, B.S. in mechanics, married with four children, enjoys outdoors, much experience in construction, quite handy, sympathizes with anti-black views.
Leave him on the boat for a moment…

  1. Father Frans: thirty-seven, Catholic, priest, active in civil rights, former college athlete, farming background, often criticized for liberal views.
    Keep keep keep, for the farming and ESPECIALLY the liberal views, shows flexibility and ability to adapt.
  1. Dr. Gonzales: sixty-six, doctor in general practice, two heart attacks in the past five years, loves literature and quotes extensively.
    No good unfortunately, may not last long on the island itself. Have Father Frans give him and the other three their last rites prior to the life boat load up.

OK… so we get the 7 on the life boat, that leaves 3 engineers (I am including the trades person, technically 2 engineers and 1 mystery person) and some poet on the crippled boat (sinking or not). Have the engineers work on the boat somehow with whatever tools are on board to slow, completely stop the sinking, or make a form of raft to trailer behind the life boat. All this while our literature fanatic/quote machine keeps the morale up by continuously mentioning quotes of inspiration (much like the air traffic controllers in the movie “Airplane”).

Therefore, we might just be able to save all 11, 7 explicitly and 4 implicitly.

So: 1,2,3,4,5,7,10 to manually save with 6,8,9, and 11 to save themselves FTW.

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You can only save 7 people. Who would you save.

A severe storm has crippled a small ship, the S.S. Guppy, and the only remaining lifeboat has room for only seven people. You have no hope of reaching civilization, but there’s a fairly good chance that you can make it to one of many small, uncharted, and unpopulated islands in the area. You may have to remain on such an island for years. Your task is to choose which seven people should be allowed on the lifeboat, and hence, be allowed to survive.

1.Dr. Dane: thirty-seven, Ph.D. in history, college professor, in good health (jogs daily), hobby is botany, enjoys politics, married with one child (Bobby).
Knowledge of plants would be extremely beneficial in finding food sources; good health would translate to good worker. Keep.

  1. Mrs. Dane: thirty-eight, rather obese, diabetic, M.A. in psychology, counselor in a mental health clinic, married to Dr. Dane, has one child.
    Psych degree could help mental well-being of group; saving her would also help Dr. Dane’s emotional status. Keep.

3.Bobby: ten, mentally delayed with IQ of 70.
Mental deficiencies would portend physical delays and increased chance of injury or disease. Better luck next time, Kid.

4.Mrs. Victor: twenty-three, ninth-grade education, cocl<tail waitress, worked as a prostitute, married at age sixteen, divorced at age eighteen.
She seems like a fighter. Keep.

5.Jean Garcia: three months old, healthy.
Sorry, but no food source for this little one. Adios.

  1. Mary Evans: eighteen, trade school education, wears glasses, artistic.
    Her glasses would be useful in starting fires. Light refraction saved your life, honey. Keep.

7.Mr. Newton: twenty-five year old homosexual starting last year of medical school, music as a hobby, physical fitness nut.
Should know enough medicine to be handy. Would most likely be friendly to Evans and Victor. Keep.

8.Mrs. Clark: twenty-eight, daughter of a minister, college graduate, electronics engineer, single now after a brief marriage, member of Zero Population.
Have a nice swim, sweetie.

9.Mr. Blake: fifty-one, B.S. in mechanics, married with four children, enjoys outdoors, much experience in construction, quite handy, sympathizes with anti-black views.
With his knowledge of construction and the outdoors, he could help us not only live, but thrive. If I am to be one of the seven survivors, I’d wish him best of luck with his backstroke. Otherwise, keep.

  1. Father Frans: thirty-seven, Catholic, priest, active in civil rights, former college athlete, farming background, often criticized for liberal views.
    Farming and athletics would go nicely with Blake and Dane. Keep.

  2. Dr. Gonzales: sixty-six, doctor in general practice, two heart attacks in the past five years, loves literature and quotes extensively.
    Too much risk, we’ve already got a doc. Bye-bye.

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Actually ZPG is not a theory, it is a proposal or social aim (and an old one at that) that each couple have not more than TWO children to maintain the population at a stable level. Two people being replaced by one is negative population growth…

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Call me harsh but i had a hard time getting seven.
1,4,6,7,8,9,10 are my choices. All are fit and (with the exception of 7), able to reproduce.

2 would die because of the diabetes
3 would be a burden
5 would die because of a lack of a food source
11 would die quickly

-Vivek

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me and you think alike. i would pick these people, and for the same reasons as well