Go ahead and like your Dodge Vipers, Ford Mustangs, Chevy Camaros, Acura Integras and NSXs, Mercedes’, BMWs, and your Ferraris. That just makes you like 90% of the rest of America. Take that as you wish. Can anyone say “baaah baaah baaah?”
Why do you insist of making youself sound like a snob? Number one, how does that make me like the rest of Americans? I NEVER like something because someone else likes it. The Viper appeals to me for it’s incredible handling and power. I say handling because it has a better grip on the road than a BMW Z3, while it’s average speed is so much faster. The Mustang I simply like because, frankly, it’s the coolest looking reasonably priced vehicle around as far as I’m concerned. I’ve never been interested in Acura or Mercedes, though I’d love to be the proud owner of a Corvette.
What is the matter with you, anyhow? Did you happen to wake up on the wrong side of the bed that morning? Every one of those comments were uncalled for and VERY innapropriate. Hope you feel better today…
*Originally posted by MarkF *
**Why do you insist of making youself sound like a snob? Number one, how does that make me like the rest of Americans? I NEVER like something because someone else likes it. The Viper appeals to me for it’s incredible handling and power. I say handling because it has a better grip on the road than a BMW Z3, while it’s average speed is so much faster. The Mustang I simply like because, frankly, it’s the coolest looking reasonably priced vehicle around as far as I’m concerned. I’ve never been interested in Acura or Mercedes, though I’d love to be the proud owner of a Corvette.
What is the matter with you, anyhow? Did you happen to wake up on the wrong side of the bed that morning? Every one of those comments were uncalled for and VERY innapropriate. Hope you feel better today… **
Gee. Why wait this long to try to flame me by saying that what you interpreted as a flame was out of order or some !@#$? Why not in one of your two other posts since my comments? On second thought… I really don’t care. What you (in particular) think is inappropriate doesn’t really affect me. I don’t feel like dealing with you anymore. Have fun stuck in the Chit-Chat Forum.
1969 Mustang Mach I
1964.5 Mustang (gotta have the original!)
1971-1973 Mustang Mach I
AC Cobra
1993 Cobra
1993 Cobra R
1995 Cobra R
2000 Cobra R
I could deal with a new Corvette or Viper (not the '03 Viper though, UUHH-GLY!) Nissan Skylines and MR2’s are nice also. I’ll probably always stick with good old American Muscle though.
Who’s flaming you? I simply would like to know why you feel the need to belittle yourself by making futile attempts at putting me down. Why do you feel the need to tell me that my opinion is wrong? Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe, someone else’s opinion is just as valid as yours? Or did that thought never cross your mind? You can’t possibly be that self-centered. Far be it for me to DARE to say anything that contradicts the pearls of infinite wisdom that spew forth from your typing fingers. Can’t you take a little agressive contructive critisizm? No harm was meant, but coming at me like I called your mother a (deleted explitive) is a little much. Ask yourself this…are you REALLY all that superior to the rest of the human race? It’s seems as though you think so from your choice of words, or, should I say, your choice of !@#$.
By the way, in case you were wondering, I waited because you are not very high on my priority list. People with an apparent lack of class tend to be the last people I try to talk to.
Have a nice day.
Oh, one other thing…why didn’t you answer my question?
I am cool, hehe, just curious as to why he isn’t. By the way, back to the discussion…the Mercedes CLK GTR…the ULTIMATE street legal supercar! Mwahahahahah!!!
first off, i believe that if you live in america, you buy american. if you dont believe that then good because thats your opinion and you have to stick to it.
as soon as i get the money i would have a 2003 dodge viper rt/10, then soon after that would be a 2002 dodge viper gts-r. i am a HUGE viper fan, if you couldnt tell. after i had those i would cap it off with a suzuki 750RR katana and a mullen m-11 tsi-r. in the luxury cars, an aston martin V12 vanquish. finally, i would have to get an old classic. a 1971 chevelle ss 454.
that is my dream collection. i think for every 2 or 3 good cars, you need to have a good bike to cruise on when its hot. a nice mix of old cars and new cars also doesnt hurt. i think i have a well rounded group.
Guy down the street from me has a Mitsubishi GTO Twinturbo with 930 Horsepower…I timed his acceleration at the track…0-100 in less than 3 seconds.
And I beg to differ. I just like the 1998 Dodge RT/10. I’ll take a GTS any day, but given the choice, I want the RT just for the concave rear windshield. grins
I guess the most reasonable car I’d want would have to be a relatively new model Mustang GT. I don’t care exactly what year…just within the past three. I’ve actually checked around; I’ve found them for as low as $20K.
umm… I’m so clueless as to not even warrent posting here (ask mark… he knows my car knowledge), but I have some questions for all of you.
with car preferences as in “better” handling, how much of it is opinion, how much actual road tests?
when i get a car, i don’t want a flashy pick-me-up-cuz-i’m-pretending-to-be-rich car, i just want one that will work reliably and get good gas mileage. preferably small. recommendations? (and don’t give years, please, this is for future)
I know there are major differences between the differing sports cars (i’m not that clueless), but can someone tell me (without dissing any of them) what these are? What are the different strengths and weaknesses of the major ones?
ok, thanks!
usually “better” handling is a combination of opinion and fact. a number of variables come into effect (lateral g-force, wheel shake/spin, skid-pad tests, etc.)
good cars for mileage and reliability, i would have to say saturns. my mom has one and it gets 30+ to the gallon, takes $10 to fill it to the brim, and runs perfect in almost any weather. after 40k miles, it still purrs like a kitten. unless you want to go to the extreme. in which case i would have to say the honda insight, i think it gets 50 or 60+ to the gallon, but like i said, the extreme.
for one, vipers are known as high torque and horsepower cars, yet poor handling for the amount of power they are making. basically a drag racing kind of car, more for muscle than handling.
mustangs are not bad, but i have heard (correct me if i am wrong) that at high speeds the back end of the car actually sits down somewhat and shifts from left to right slightly. otherwise it is an okay car.
the camaro is also pretty good, even though they dont make them any more. they last forever and is truly a car that never goes out of style. but, much like the viper, its more for muscle and not much handling.
the new vw beetles are stupid looking to me, but the new rsi makes it look a little better to me. not bad on the mileage and very small, but still can have a 140+ mph top speed.
if you live in california, i would have to recommend the Mullen M11. at under $40k with a lateral skidpad test of 1.08 g’s, its nice. custom made and naturally very very light, it has a ford quad cam 2.6 liter V6, which is all it really needs. 0-60 in 5 seconds, about 1800 lbs stock (1650 with the new carbon fiber body), $31,450 base price, and 160+ mph top speed. i am a big fan of mullen and how they can do so much with very little.
Those are my opinions, not yours. Feel free to correct them or add something. But please respect mine much like I respect yours.
Yes, Vipers are VERY high torque/output, but they do need to be handled correctly. Not for the unexperienced…not that I am, I just know what I do from observation. It tends to spin out for all the horsepower supplied to the rear wheels, however, the racing circuits that they are generally put through aren’t much different than that of any other sports car. Bendy roads are easily handled; you just can’t accelerate too hard as you come out of the turn. The actual tire treads themselves are specially made for the Dodge Viper, the rear tires giving more traction that the front to counter. As a rule, the acceleration and overall speed of the car is more than enough to make up for the small amount of time lost in the turns, where one must slow down considerably and acelerate slowly until the turn is complete.
The Mustang is a bit unstable. The front end provides considerable lift and makes, as you said, for a shaky ride in the rear end. This is why they modified the Mustang Cobra-R. If you look, you’ll notice an extra-long foil under the front bumper. This is to reduce airflow underneath the car and thus decrease the lift of the rear end. The Mustang Cobra is preferred by FAR to race, for that lone reason.
Both, from what I know, are very good street cars. Extremely good control on the road in most conditions…not all, but most.
As for you, honey…
Toyota and Nissan are known very well for their mileage and performance. My grandfather’s Corolla is almost as old as I am and the only thing currently wrong with it is the dashboard indicator for the hazard lights doesn’t work. That’s it. Some of the more unreliable cars are, ironically, most Porche models and quite a few Cheverolets. The Camaro, while not one to fall apart, makes too bloody much cabin noise (engine noise that filters into the driver’s area), just like the Corvette. Most other cars to me are varying degrees of average, depending on what you’re looking at. Most.
For a blend between looks and cost, the Z-3 Coupe wins hands down… All those Vipers and Porsches have their weakness- my teacher can’t even drive her Boxster through snow… Now I just gotta fit in that tiny car…
for starters or cheap cars, the Civic is unmatched in reliability- my dad has an old 94’ civic and he’s paid squat for repairs- even after hitting a thousand potholes and animals…
I prefer Chevy… to me nothing beats american muscle cars.
72 Chevelle, 69 Camaro, 67 Corvette. My dad used to own and work on these kinds of cars. We still work on them, we just don’t own any.
By the way, back to the discussion…the Mercedes CLK GTR…the ULTIMATE street legal supercar! Mwahahahahah!!!
